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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 125
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Strangerers
Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
[B7L] Liaisons at the Lowry
Re: [B7L] Liaisons at the Lowry
Re: [B7L] Avon and Aliens
Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Bounty"
Re: [B7L] BBC
Re: [B7L] Liaisons at the Lowry
Re: [B7L] Avon and Aliens
Re: [B7L] Avon and Aliens
Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
[B7L] NYC get together
Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Bounty"
[B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Bounty"
Re: [B7L] BBC
[B7L] Brecht/Weill [was Re: Avon and Aliens]
Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Bounty"
Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Bounty"
Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:21:14 +0100
From: "Deborah Day" <d.day@ukgateway.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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> If you mean when they were all gathered on the road near the space
> ship, I thought that was the last episode? I assumed that "to be
> continued" meant another series. But maybe I got muddled, as I missed
> odd episodes.
>
Yes this was the last episode in the current season. There is not
any news if there will be a new series.
I just assumed that there must be a 'final' episode, as I had the power cut
and no newspaper for that week so I had guessed that I had missed an
episode. Hopefuly there will be a second series. My favourite bit is still
where they take the truckers breakfast away from him, followed by his knife
and fork.
Debbie
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:58:24 -0400
From: "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet.att.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
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Responding to Neil:
> But surely when he says "Of all the things I knew myself to be, I never
> recognized the fool", that suggests that until that moment he's actually
had
> a pretty *high* opinion of himself.
Actually, I think what he had in mind was something like "very proud,
revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to
put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in."
{Hamlet III,i, 122}
>
> I sometimes wonder if all this talk about poor ickle Avon being 'damaged'
> and 'dysfunctional' isn't just a way for some Avon groupies to reconcile
> their attraction to the man with the fact that behind the acerbic wit and
> saturnine good looks he's really just another arrogant macho moron:)
Moron: certainly not.
Arrogant: Well, you got me there. Not a virtuous characteristic, but often a
desirable one
Macho: Freedom City, qv, passim
There ARE no men like him. And that makes him rather dangerous.
>
> But I stopped being nice years ago, and I haven't got any female fans at
> all:(
So soon they forget...just a couple of months ago your hand in marriage was
being fought over.
-(Y)
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:40:45 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>,
"Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Liaisons at the Lowry
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Ellie and I are going to see Jan Chappell in Liaisons Dangereuses at the
new Lowry Theatre in Salford. We've got tickets for the matinee, 14.30, on
Saturday, May 20. Anyone else in the area thinking of going and fancy
linking up? There were lots of seats available when I was at the Lowry on
Sunday (more than one could say for the Oresteia). But it's murder getting
through on the phone.
We're also hoping to be at Fab Cafe to see Gareth on Tuesday, May 9.
Harriet
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Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:48:30 GMT
From: "Mat Shayde" <dorian17@hotmail.com>
To: 101637.2064@compuserve.com, freedom-city@blakes-7.org,
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>From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
>To: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>, "Blake's 7 (Lysator)"
><BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
>Subject: [B7L] Liaisons at the Lowry
>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:40:45 -0400
>
>Ellie and I are going to see Jan Chappell in Liaisons Dangereuses at the
>new Lowry Theatre in Salford. We've got tickets for the matinee, 14.30, on
>Saturday, May 20. Anyone else in the area thinking of going and fancy
>linking up? There were lots of seats available when I was at the Lowry on
>Sunday (more than one could say for the Oresteia). But it's murder getting
>through on the phone.
Hi Harriet,
just a quick question - who else is in this and is it going on tour? I only
ask as there is a stage version of this in Brighton at the end of May, but
the promotional material only mentions the two leads, however if it is the
same theatre group, with Jan, then I'm definately going to see it!
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 11:16:01 -0700
From: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon and Aliens
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begin Mat Shayde quotation:
> Homosexuality and Judaism as 'complaints'? Hhhm - some re-wording
> required there I think...
The word "complaint" wasn't referring to _The Boys in the
Band_, but rather to the movie _Alexander Portnoy's Complaint_.
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:39:04 EDT
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In a message dated 02/05/00 02:54:39 GMT Daylight Time, N.Faulkner@tesco.net
writes:
<< Well, one can posit a financial reason for that.... Yes, it can be twee,
but I think it largely depends on *how* it is done. ST doesn't need time
travel to be twee, after all. Or contrived, for that matter. The Star Cops
example of the 80s pop fan is neither, IMO. If nothing else, it suggests
that lack of taste will never go out of fashion. >> I've just finished
watching the whole series now... the series is set in 2027. The series was
made/broadcast in 1987. In the final episode Nathan (ie. the lead character
for those of you who don't know) says to his colleague, Kenzy: "On yer bike".
"Nathan," comes the reply, "that expression went out forty years ago". I
think that's even worse than the 80s pop bit!
<< If there's an ironic intent behind the time travel plot, then the RL
present
day is the obvious time to travel to. Sarkoff's obsession with the C20th
is clearly intended to be ironic (it reflects on a misplaced adoration of
lost golden ages. Unless you think Tommy Steele really is an echo of a more
civilised age.) >> I must admit, I didn't really have too much of a problem
with this, I thought the old 78s made for a nice touch. (wonder how they
transported the whole car to the planet, though - that stretched
credibility). I think a bad example of this sort of thing is in Doctor Who,
"The Time Meddler", where the hyper-advanced Monk travels back to 1066 and
fools people by playing Gregorian chants... on an old wind-up gramophone.
Okay, I know it was made in the 60s, but in real life he'd have taken a midi
disc or CD player or something even more advanced, wouldn't he?
<< What I would like to see, just for a change, is someone obsessed with a
past
that hasn't happened yet. >> That would be a seriously good idea for a show.
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 21:33:53 +0100
From: "Andrew Ellis" <Andrew.D.Ellis@btinternet.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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>Neil replied:
><So those of us who would rather *not* see the film project get off the
>ground
And Sally said...
>Too true...I've been ......wondering if too much enthusiasm will get the
film
>(which I dislike the idea of more every time I hear about it, but that's
>just me) really off the ground...
Why ?
(I'm not asking for a slanging match, I'd just like to know)
Gnog.
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Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 22:14:05 +0200
From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: "Mat Shayde" <dorian17@hotmail.com>
cc: 101637.2064@compuserve.com, freedom-city@blakes-7.org,
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> just a quick question - who else is in this and is it going on tour?
It's certainly touring, because I saw it here in Edinburgh a few weeks
back. Played too much for laughs, unfortunately, but interesting to
see it.
steve
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 08:52:52 EST
From: "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon and Aliens
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>From: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>
> The word "complaint" wasn't referring to _The Boys in the
>Band_, but rather to the movie _Alexander Portnoy's Complaint_.
Well, book (I said I hadn't read it, but it's a bit like, say, Lolita - you
hear aspects of the storyline whether you want to know or not). And
thankyou, Nick, because it was a terrible joke in the first place and
explaining it to Matt wouldn't make it any better.
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 16:00:48 -0700
From: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon and Aliens
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begin J MacQueen quotation:
> >From: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>
> > The word "complaint" wasn't referring to _The Boys in the
> >Band_, but rather to the movie _Alexander Portnoy's Complaint_.
>
> Well, book (I said I hadn't read it, but it's a bit like, say,
> Lolita - you hear aspects of the storyline whether you want to know
> or not). And thankyou, Nick, because it was a terrible joke in the
> first place and explaining it to Matt wouldn't make it any better.
Hehe. Yeah, well, I saw the movie (didn't know about the
book, but it figures).
However, I only ever read the script for _The Boys in the
Band_, and never saw a production of it.
>shrug< That's what going to University in San Francisco gets
you.
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Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:42:36 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:34:07 -0400 "Dana Shilling"
<dshilling@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
> And such a person could easily enjoy being rude to others. After
> all,
> Hamlet, who is hardly the poster child for healthy self-image,
> pretty much
> spends four-and-a-half acts relating to other people largely in the
> form of
> wind-ups.
I've got to see Hamlet again. Despite the dark wardrobe, I never thought
of him as being like Avon before (kind of puts a new twist on his being
sent off under guard to England [sort of a prison ship] only to be
rescued / kidnaped by a pirate ship ....).
> That's one of the many reasons why Avon has so many female
> fans--many of us
> are fascinated by someone who has entirely abandoned the burden that
> being/trying to be nice places on us.
> -(Y)
This is an interesting idea. Have to admit, this is reminding me of that
fanfic I'm working on. One of the characters really makes Avon look like
a nice, cordial guy .... But I don't think I want to be like her. I
don't think Attila the Hun wanted to be like her ....
Maybe we like certain characters who have found a useful (in their minds)
focus for all those aggressive tendencies that only make the mess worse
when I try to use them. Except, I suppose, when dealing with Rottweilers
gone feral. Cut loose with every aggressive instinct you've got if you
run into one of those. I wonder if Avon ever felt that was what he was
dealing with.
Ellynne
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 23:22:28 EDT
From: B7Morrigan@aol.com
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As a Yank, I know I am often a wee bit jealous of those enticing bar
gatherings in London (a bit pricey commute for me).
After finally meeting Dana Shilling face-to-face today, we discussed the
possibility of arranging something in the US, on the Eastern Seaboard, in
particular, New York.
As Dana and I live in cities that orbit NYC, here's an open invitation to
those in the tri-state area, or others willing to travel, to let me know if
you're interested in gathering at NYC bar/cafe mid to late May. It will
likely be the Village or that vicinity.
Trish
formerly prmolloy@aol.com
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to kill your friends while committing suicide."
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:56:45 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
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On Tue, 2 May 2000 14:39:04 EDT RCalla6725@aol.com writes:
> (wonder how
> they
> transported the whole car to the planet, though - that stretched
> credibility).
There's a MASH episode where somebody was mailing a jeep home, piece by
piece. This is described as an old army joke (I'm assuming they had some
way of billing the postage to the army, too, or it's not a very
cost-effective one). Sarkoff just saved up his cereal box tops and sent
off for it, one part at a time. Probably spent forever tracking down
antique hubcaps, etc. but it's not like he didn't have time on his hands.
I think a bad example of this sort of thing is in
> Doctor Who,
> "The Time Meddler", where the hyper-advanced Monk travels back to
> 1066 and
> fools people by playing Gregorian chants... on an old wind-up
> gramophone.
Maybe he thought it went with the decore?
> Okay, I know it was made in the 60s, but in real life he'd have
> taken a midi
> disc or CD player or something even more advanced, wouldn't he?
>
But then everyone twenty years from now would be groaning about how silly
and dated that looked. He should actually have some weird toy from
Gallifrey. But maybe the idea was to make viewers see something they
recognized as fairly normal from their own time, instead of something
that screamed alien.
> << What I would like to see, just for a change, is someone obsessed
> with a
> past
> that hasn't happened yet. >> That would be a seriously good idea
> for a show.
>
Just hard to create all those little bits and pieces resulting from the
viewer knowing about the time period (that's not a disagreement, just a
point). Of course, Star Trek has tried to make comments about old Trek,
but they don't often do a very good job (did like the DS9 Tribbles
episode. How did Dax summarize the era? "Men wore red and women wore ...
less.").
Somehow, I don't see a B7 movie with characters rhapsodizing about how
good life was twenty years ago ....
Ellynne
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:34:19 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
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On Mon, 1 May 2000 21:11:50 +0100 "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
writes:
> Dana wrote:
> > No matter how low an opinion Avon has of himself
>
> But surely when he says "Of all the things I knew myself to be, I
> never
> recognized the fool", that suggests that until that moment he's
> actually had
> a pretty *high* opinion of himself.
Speaking for myself, there are situations and circumstances where I'll
present a very low self-esteem (anything to do with spelling, for
example) and others where I'll give someone the look and say, "Scuse me?
Do I _look_ stupid?" On a few, very rare occasions, I'll cruise all the
way into arrogance. I think this is fairly normal. Knock a person down
in an area where a they feel confident, and they may act as if (or say)
this is the first time they realized they were a fool. Even though they
may have admitted to wide ranging ignorance in other matters on a regular
basis.
In some ways, Avon's as cocky as they come. In relations with people, he
feels vulnerable (psychotically damaged vulnerable or sane response to
the world he lives in vulnerable not the point. Yet). He has what he
considers a healthy dose of paranoia and also believes he has sufficient
defenses in place. Realizing he has made this catastrophic string of
misjudgements and been hit this badly is a shock to the old system.
>
> I sometimes wonder if all this talk about poor ickle Avon being
> 'damaged'
> and 'dysfunctional' isn't just a way for some Avon groupies to
> reconcile
> their attraction to the man with the fact that behind the acerbic
> wit and
> saturnine good looks he's really just another arrogant macho moron:)
>
I'd say Avon is at least partly damaged. He has an emotional reserve
that seems to go far beyond normal, healthy levels and seems capable of
going through considerable difficulty to maintain it. It also seems far
beyond what we see in just about anyone in the culture he comes from
(exception: the Federation officer on Horizon _claims_ to have embraced a
similar philosophy, but that may just be brain games with Ro. Compared
to just about anyone else in the Federation military-including a guy he
'trained with' [exact context open to debate], Avon's reserved).
But is this deep damage or just a psychological flesh wound? Is it a
combination of healthy impulses carried a bit too far working with minor
damage? Personally, I vote for deep damage, if only because it's more
interesting. But then, I just love stories that muck around in deeply
scarred psyches.
This somehow creates a mental image of Neil prefering stories where they
skip through sunlit psyches saying "Hello trees, hello birds," which must
be a complete misrepresentation of reality.
Could there actually be an alternative betsides angst and sunshine?
Nah.
Ellynne
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:47:37 +0100
From: "Ariana" <ariana@ndirect.co.uk>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Bounty"
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> << What I would like to see, just for a change, is someone obsessed with a
> past
> that hasn't happened yet. >> That would be a seriously good idea for a
show.
The closest I've seen is DS9's "Past Tense", where Bashir and Sisko
travelled back to the *21st* century. IOW, it was still in their past, but
in our future.
I agree that Sarkoff's interest wasn't badly portrayed, and at least he
wasn't surrounded by 1970s paraphenalia. But it's such a common theme it
gets tiresome whatever the series.
Ariana
http://www.alpha.ndirect.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 03:22:48 PDT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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After I wrote:
<Too true...I've been ......wondering if too much enthusiasm will get the
film (which I dislike the idea of more every time I hear about it, but
that's just me) really off the ground...>
Gnog quieried:
<Why?>
I just think...
A) the ending we got was perfect (in a perfectly awful way) and while I'm a
great lover of PGP land, *any* "official" attempt to follow it would have
been a huge anti-climax if it had followed straight away. Now it's waaayyyy
too late to try and follow it.
B) what I've heard of the projected story-line (Avon's been basically
propagandising for the federation since GP) I hate, because (for me and me
only) it would be hard enough to imagine him, having killed Blake, to spend
*twenty years* basically helping to destroy any meaning Blake's life might
have had. This is a very personal reaction (I'm a character junkie for those
of you who missed the subtle hints :-)) and I don't expect anyone to agree,
but my gut reaction is that if he's been doing this, is AIN'T AVON.
C) Our Heroes being considerably older (thought probably not much wiser)
there's going to have to be an emphasis on new characters to carrying the
adventure. That's all very well, but I'm fairly hostile to a Blake's 7 with
(probably) no Blake and lots of people I don't know.
D) Brian Lighthill produced those two dreary radio plays. Paul Darrow was
simply, peerlessly wonderful as Avon, but his idea of whom he was portraying
and my idea are - errr - somewhat different shall we say? With these two *in
charge*, I don't have much hope of an Avon I want to know anything about.
And if the radio plays were any indication, there ain't much hope for a good
Vila either.
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 07:53:43 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Brecht/Weill [was Re: Avon and Aliens]
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Dana wrote:
>"The Threepenny Opera": "Und wenn einer tritt,
>dan bin ich er"--which means something like "If
>anyone gets stepped on around here, I'm going
>to be doing the stepping.")
Denn wie man sich bettet, so liegt man,
Es deckt einen keiner da zu,
Und wenn einer tritt, dann bin ich es,
Und wird einer getreten dann bist's du.
(Something like - As you make your bed, so you must lie, there's no one to
do that for you; and when someone does the stepping, it's going to be me,
and when someone's stepped on it's going to be you.)
Same team as Threepenny, but it's actually The Rise and Fall of the City of
Mahagonny.
I love that song. And I think Avon might appreciate the opening couplet
too.
Somewhere under a similar heading, Neil wrote:
>But I stopped being nice years ago, and I
>haven't got any female fans at all
Crikey, how many public proposals of marriage does this man need?
Harriet
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 13:05:37 +0000
From: Murray <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Bounty"
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Ariana,
Your analysis was very good as usual, although it appears that I enjoy the
show more than you, for the following reasons:
1. Blake being especially ruthles: While he was ruthless in setting up the
explosive charge in 'Mission to Destiny', we could console ourselves, like
Arnie, that the people he intended it for were probably all bad; but there
is no room for those kind of feelings here, Blake threatening to destroy
someone's collection of antiques in order to force him to leave the planet.
2. As mentioned by others, it is a wonderful Jenna episode, showing that
the story of her being a smuggler wasn't just some blonde bimbo's
invention.<g> Her performance playing the double game was quite convincing,
and I liked the glimpses of her life before she was captured by the
Federation.
3. Sarkoff and Tyce: It was interesting to see more glimpses of
non-Federation worlds. Sarkoff, admirably portrayed by T.P. McKenna, made
convincing progress, after a lot of help from Blake, from self-pity to a
determination to do his best. Tyce was a good character with a lot of
spirit.
Ariana, you asked why Blake would be 'going through all this trouble just
to interfere in Lindor's internal affairs'. The answer is obvious: to stop
the Federation taking over the planet. From what we hear in the story,
intercepted Federation communications gave Blake the information on the
Lindor Strategy. Presumably, he then contacted the factions on Lindor, who
informed him that they would find Sarkoff an acceptable leader to end the
'total chaos'. While the B7 crew may be 'a band of rowdy rebels', it is
certainly not the case in relation to their beloved leader.
4. The crew interaction after they were captured was lovely.
There were some plot holes, as you mentioned:
1. Sarkoff's collection of 20th century Earth objects: As Sally Manton
pointed out, the kitsch would be more likely to survive, being mostly
plastic. Sue Clerc has a nice website, where in her review of 'Bounty' she
commented on the absence of a CD player, a TV, a VCR, any pictures besides
that of Churchill,and of any pop culture artifacts. I admit to wondering if
Sarkoff could pass off Britney Spears' 'Baby One More Time' or the theme
from 'Shaft' as 'Echoes of a more civilized age'.<bg> That said, I did like
the idea of the collection, and the records that Sarkoff played.
2. I agree with you about Cally's costume being quite inappropriate.
3. Sending Gan over to the ship in distress was incredibly stupid, as he
was the member of the crew least capable of defending himself, due to the
limiter. Also, why didn't the crew get Zen to analyse what appeared to be
Gan's voice _before_ teleporting him back?
>ZEN: Information. Analysis of voice print confirms that was not Olag Gan
> speaking.
4. The Amagons using fire extinguishers as lethal weapons.
Murray
P.S. Have you seen 'GalaxyQuest'? While the film is obviously based on Star
Trek, mostly original series with a bit of The Next Generation, there is a
scene where an alien is shooting the command crew of a ship in slow motion
that reminds me of the episode 'Blake'.
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:05:04 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Bounty"
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Ariana wrote:
>Vila gets a major fright, having to hunt down
> some unknown danger on his own when
>Avon and Jenna go missing. Michael Keating
> even gets a scene entirely to himself; you can
>virtually see him tremble when Vila realises he's
>on his own.
But he still gets his gun and goes, a nice echo of Breakdown, and proof
that he is ready to defend his friends when he has to. Not his fault that
this time he has to deal with a bunch of determined pirates, not two
unarmed medics.
Later, Sally replied to Ariana:
>>How many people do you know who collect,
>>say, fifteenth century memorabilia?>
>
>Well, yes, if only I could afford it...
We have to buy cheap replicas from the Richard III Society instead.
Re Tyce, I think she's worth it, if only for the scene where she's
screaming at Sarkoff to shoot Tarvin whatever the cost to her. It shows
how much their impotence in exile has hurt her - she'd face death rather
than live in passivity any longer.
Harriet
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 04:31:22 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
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Ellynne wrote:
> I've got to see Hamlet again. Despite the dark wardrobe, I never thought
> of him as being like Avon before (kind of puts a new twist on his being
> sent off under guard to England [sort of a prison ship] only to be
> rescued / kidnaped by a pirate ship ....).
There are many, many strong parallels between Avon and Hamlet.
I can't watch Rumours or Terminal without being reminded of them.
Do give Hamlet another viewing...or three.
Mistral
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I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend
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