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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 127
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
Re: [B7L] favourite quotes
[B7L] misc. TV commentaries
Favorite quotes (was Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #125)
[B7L] Good deed for the day
Re: [B7L] favourite quotes
[B7L] Gareth Thomas
[B7L] Favourite Quote
Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
Re: [B7L] favourite quotes
[B7L] Seven--the Together Again 7th tape
[B7L] NYC Tape Rentals
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:32:22 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
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Julia said -
>Quite. This INTx would *love* to be able to behave like that and get
>away with it. Although this isn't just the blatant "treating everyone
>else like morons"- it's also the refusal to conform with what the Es
>consider to be acceptable social behaviour, based on their belief that
>"normal" people desire constant social and emotional interaction.
Am I being over-sensitive here? (probably) I certainly don't feel any of
those things Julia. I appreciate and like introverted people,
and I don't expect them to 'be like me'.
Remember that in the UK introverts are in a majority, so I'm the one who can
claim the moral high ground for being an oppressed minority.
Alison 'differently verted'
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:33:12 EDT
From: B7Morrigan@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
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> Julia wrote about Avon's bedside manner (don't we wish)
>
> Quite. This INTx would *love* to be able to behave like that and get
> away with it.
>
and unfortunately hurt Alison's feelings....
> Am I being over-sensitive here? (probably) I certainly don't feel any of
> those things Julia. I appreciate and like introverted people,
> and I don't expect them to 'be like me'.
> Remember that in the UK introverts are in a majority, so I'm the one who
can
> claim the moral high ground for being an oppressed minority.
>
Alison should come to the US then. She can feel at home amongst all of the
screaming "E"s here. And it's not just an "I" issues, it's really more a
combination with the "NT," meaning explicitly that truth sometimes hurts, but
society requires a tremendous amount of careful footing around the "SF"
people so that directness does not seem to be unpleasant or even rude. For
this reason, the INT people do envy Avon his refusal to participate in those
rules.
It's so nice to hear from Julia again. Hope the trip is going well
Trish
formerly prmolloy@aol.com
"Auron may be different, Cally, but on Earth it is considered ill-mannered
to kill your friends while committing suicide."
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:57:52 EDT
From: B7Morrigan@aol.com
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> >What are everyones favourite quotes?
> >
> >????
> >julia-loughborough
>
Avon: Auron may be different, Cally, but on Earth it is considered
ill-mannered to kill your friends while committing suicide.
Gan: Can't find Orac. Even tried calling his name.
Avon: Oh, I'm sorry I missed that. It's the kind of natural stupidity no
amount of training could ever hope to match.
Blake: People collect odd things.
Jenna: Look what you ended up with.
Jenna: It's enough to fry your eyeballs.
Avon: Daintily put.
Jenna: It must be the company I keep.
Vila: So you see, Bek, this thing tapped into Orac's channels, sucked up
all his energy, so that it could come squirting out and swallow us
all.
Avon: The plain man's guide to alien invasions.
Blake: Vila, go and see how Cally is, will you.
Vila: Must I?
Jenna: It's not catching.
Vila: It brought my head out in lumps.
Avon Blake, in the unlikely event that we survive this --
Blake Yes?
Avon I'm finished. Staying with you requires a degree of stupidity of
which I no longer feel capable.
Blake No, you're just being modest.
Trish
formerly prmolloy@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 17:53:43 EDT
From: JEB31538@cs.com
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I see all the UK programs late because I see them on video.
I thoroughly enjoyed Andy Hopkinson on Collectors Lot and was so sorry that
it only lasted five minutes. If I'm not mistaken, there was no mention that
the interviewer was wearing a Blake costume. That was an error, I thought,
because only B7 fans would realize it. (From the picture of the host on
Judith's website, it's clear that the host is a lot heftier than Blake ever
was in the series. The jacket doesn't lace together by a long way.) It was
fascinating to see everything. The rest of the show was a terrible bore.
I have all of the The Strangerers, but have only watched the first five
parts. Actually, I have little desire to see the remaining ones, but I do
want to see what else Paul Darrow does. The only episode I really enjoyed,
of course, was the first one where Gareth got about 3-5 minutes screen time
as a policeman. According to one of the UK sci-fi magazines, he got the part
because Sheelagh Wells suggested he'd do it. Well, I'm glad she did. I just
wish she had suggested him for a bigger part.
On the Set of Randall and Hopkirk was about the making of the series. I
believe Horizon or someone said that GT would be shown briefly in this. If
he was in it, I sure missed him. Parts of this was interesting. I don't
think I appreciate/understand British humor, and this may be part of the
reason I didn't think this was wonderful nor am I thrilled with The
Strangerers.
Gareth's episode, "A Man of Substance," in Randall and Hopkirk was a great
episode. Watching this made me wish I had seen the first five episodes of
the series. Gareth played Dickie Bechard (not Dachie as originally said by
sources), a pub owner, and had a reasonable amount of screen time in the show.
It was a good part. I thought he looked better than he had in ages. He
even looked slimmer than he did in The Strangerers though they must have been
filmed not that far apart in time. He certainly looked a lot better than he
did in the last two Heartbeats. His costuming at the end was really
interesting. It was, also, neat to see Tom Baker, even though GT and he were
not in any scenes together. (The last show the two were in together was
Medics.) All in all, this show was very enjoyable, and it was great fun to
see GT in an interesting role.
Joyce Bowen JEB31538@cs.com
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:04:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: padme@bantha.org (she goes out and steals the king's english)
To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Favorite quotes (was Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #125)
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Pherber@aol.com wrote:
: In a message dated 5/3/00 11:08:59 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
: dragonfly@pond65.fsnet.co.uk writes:
: > What are everyones favourite quotes?
: Dr Havand (TWB) - "Reality is a dangerous concept."
Ooh, me too! That's my absolute favorite. But it's "Havant".
My runner-ups are
That's my absolute favorite. But it's "Havant".
My runner-ups are both Avon-Cally moments:
"My people have a saying, a man who trusts can never be betrayed,
only mistaken."
"Life expectancy must be fairly short among your people." -- MtDestiny
"Regret is a part of being alive, but keep it a small part."
"As you do?"
"Demonstrably." -- Sarcophagus
Claudia (same Claudia you might remember, different address)
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 21:32:21 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Good deed for the day
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I justified my existence on Thursday by using time between taking numbers
on the polling station to persuade the Liberal Democrat teller to take the
BBC's phone number so her best friend could ring up and demand the
reshowing of season two.
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 23:04:31 PDT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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<What are everyones favourite quotes?>
Oh god, there are so *many* - at least 1 or 2 in nearly every episode. But
some of my favourites are...
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AVON: ZEN!
JENNA: I don't think he likes you, somehow.
AVON: I think I may have to reprogram this machine.
JENNA: That still won't make you likable. [Cygnus Alpha]
*************************
GAN: I think we make a good team.
AVON: Well, hooray for us. [Time Squad]
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ZEN: Involvement is not permitted.
BLAKE: If the ship's blown up, lofty disinterest won't save you. [The Web]
*************************
BLAKE: Have you got any better ideas?
AVON: As a matter of fact, no I haven't.
BLAKE: Does that mean you agree?
AVON: Do I have a choice?
BLAKE: Yes.
AVON: Then I agree. [Duel - and it's soooo them…]
*************************
AVON: Staying with you requires a degree of stupidity of which I no longer
feel capable.
BLAKE: No, you're just being modest. [Breakdown]
*************************
BLAKE: Be as quick as you can, and don't take any stupid risks. We're taking
enough of those down here. [Bounty]
*************************
VILA: I'm entitled to my opinion.
AVON: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is
irritating. [Bounty]
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VILA: [To himself] He agrees with me...Makes it all seem worthwhile somehow.
[Bounty]
*************************
BLAKE: Do you think you could forget your superiority complex for a moment
and get on with it? [Redemption]
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AVON: Oh, you are curious. Well, I'm glad we have a worthwhile purpose.
[Horizon]
*************************
VILA: But that's Space City, one of my all-time great ambitions.
BLAKE: You'd probably be disappointed.
VILA: I'll take that chance.
BLAKE: I would never forgive myself, Vila. [Shadow]
*************************
BLAKE: Your sense of timing is as impeccable as ever.
AVON: I have always admired your patience. [Shadow]
*************************
AVON: Oh, I'm sorry I missed that. It's the kind of natural stupidity no
amount of training could ever hope to match. [Shadow]
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VILA: I don’t want to go.
AVON: You surprise me.
VILA: I don’t feel well. I’m going to be a big handicap.
AVON: I’m used to that. [Pressure Point]
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BELLFRIAR: A high point in your scientific career, Gambrill. Just think of
it, in less than twenty minutes you could be shaking hands with an exomorph.
GAMBRILL: Not if it's hostile sir, I've got my pension to think about.
[Killer]
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AVON: Zen, can we withstand an attack of this magnitude?
ZEN: No information.
AVON: Thank you, that's very helpful. [Hostage - it's the bland
politeness...]
*************************
CALLY: I'm going to clear the neutron blasters for firing,
JENNA: Well, what are you going to fire at?
CALLY: Anything that moves. [Hostage]
*************************
VILA: I'll get you for this, Tarrant. I'll tear your arm off and beat you to
death with the wet end. I'll get you for this! [City at the Edge of the
World]
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VILA: I know, I know. You have a reputation for straightforward mayhem
that's second to none. I've been an admirer of yours for, um, well, for as
long as I can remember. Well maybe not that long, I mean, uh, you're not
that old, are you? But, uh, then again, you did start very young, didn't
you? I think I feel sick. [City at the Edge of the World]
*************************
VILA: The Himalayas are quite tall at this time of the year. [Children of
Auron]
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AVON: You could try trusting me. [Terminal - just for the unmitigated cheek
of it :-)]
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VILA: What are you going to do if he spots you?
TARRANT: Duck. [Terminal]
*************************
DEVA: Hm. You've been given a temporary appointment as a law enforcement
officer.
BLAKE: That central computer doesn't care who it makes respectable, does it?
[Blake]
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:36:21 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] Gareth Thomas
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Gareth Thomas will be at Manchester's Fab Cafe on Tues 8th May for 'An Audience
With Gareth Thomas' starting at 8.00.
He's been there before and is a popular guest. The cafe is themed around Cult
TV programmes and frineds who've been there say it has a really nice atmosphere.
You can get free tickets by phoning the cafe in advance.
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To tie in with the release of Volume 1 of 'The Actor Speaks' CD range, Gareth
will be signing copies of the CD at Tenth Planet in Barking, Essex on Saturday
1st July 2000: 12 - 3pm
The CD will include a range of items including Gareth talking about Blake's
early life and a short spoof of Blake's 7.
Photos of Gareth will also be available on the day
Also present will be Mark J Thompson producer of this and the 'Soldiers Of Love'
CD series
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight )
Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 00:54:26 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Favourite: Next, please. (Avon, Shadow)
First Runner Up: It's a bit elaborate for a toothpick. (Avon, C.A.)
Second Runner Up: Don't worry, we're still here. (Vila)
(Or any other Vila-Avon exchange from Volcano)
At least those are the ones that made the cut today.
Mistral
--
I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:19:32 +0200
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Aliens
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(Warning - this laptop is having difficulty remembering what country
keyboard it has, so I can't always find things like the quotes key).
In message <00a601bfb5ee$d055efc0$ca8edec2@pre-installedco>, Alison Page
<alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> writes
>Am I being over-sensitive here? (probably) I certainly don't feel any of
>those things Julia. I appreciate and like introverted people,
>and I don't expect them to 'be like me'.
Yes, you are happy with the idea that not everyone is like you, and as
far as I can tell that's a common feature of the Es on this list.
Unfortunately, I've been on the receiving end of too many unpleasant
comments about my "unsociable" behaviour to believe it to be a common
attitude amongst the E population in general. Quite a few people seem to
think that they are doing me a favour by explaining to me that I'm some
sort of freak who obviously needs help because I find the company of
other people tiring after a while. As for the business about how lonely
I must be, when my husband lives in the US and I don't have many friends
living nearby... Some of the recent discussion in this thread, with the
underlying assumptions about anyone who is emotionally reserved can't
really be human, hit a nerve.
Actually, I suspect that's a big part of the difference with the Es
here. They're net-aware, so they understand that one does not need the
constant real-time physical presence of other people to have a social
life. I have a serious problem with my parents when they come to visit -
they get terribly worried about me not going out with friends in the
evening, while at the same time complaining about me spending time on
the computer instead of sitting with them to keep them company while
they watch some tv programme I have no interest in.
>
>Remember that in the UK introverts are in a majority, so I'm the one who can
>claim the moral high ground for being an oppressed minority.
Remember that I am, ah, a collector of citizenships...
If this drifts any further off-topic, it should go to the spin list.
Reply-to set accordingly.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:22:35 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Kai V Karmanheimo <karmanhe@cc.helsinki.fi>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] favourite quotes
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julia-loughborough wrote:
<What are everyones favourite quotes?>
Impossible to say, really, especially with all that glut of tasty remarks
from Vila, but some of those that have been most relevant recently would
include:
SARKOFF: I'm grateful for your semantic precision. Political assassination
I can... live with. To be murdered would the final, sordid indignity.
***
CALLY: Would we have risked our lives for an opinion?
***
THANIA: Oh, that's something, I suppose.
PAR: Major, when you're up to your neck in slime and lasers, that's
everything.
***
BELLFRIAR: Well, Gambrill's like that, I'm afraid. Lacks faith.
BLAKE: Defined as the capacity to believe what you know isn't true?
***
TARRANT: And tomorrow, everything will look different?
AVON: If it does, you can assume you're on the wrong ship.
***
TARRANT: Hello, Bayban. I heard a rumour you were dead. Funny, that turns
out to be true.
***
VILA: I think I've just made the biggest mistake of my life.
ORAC: In the light of your previous record, that seems unlikely. Heh, I
would predict that there are far greater mistakes waiting to be made by
someone with your obvious talent for them.
[ORAC should have been a career guidance conselor.]
***
VILA: I plan to live forever. Or die trying.
[A classic.]
***
VILA: Where are all the good guys?
BLAKE: You could be looking at them.
AVON: What a very depressing thought.
[Sums up the overall feel of the series quite nicely.]
Kai
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 12:58:59 EDT
From: JEB31538@cs.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, freedom-city@blakes-7.org
Subject: [B7L] Seven--the Together Again 7th tape
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I just listened to "Seven," the seventh Together Again tape put out by
Sheelagh Wells and Joe Nazzaro which I highly recommend to anyone interested
in Blake's 7.
This tape is longer than the others, it's about 80 minutes, but follows the
same format as the other tapes. The people involved in this conversation
besides Sheelagh and Joe are Gareth Thomas, Paul Darrow, Jim Francis
(special effects & models), and Chris Boucher (writer). The title of the
tape becomes clear with the front photo because baby Orac is being held by
Gareth and Paul, and it completes the group of 7. This photo, like the
preceding six, is quite good and I hope will be offered later as a separate
offering.
The conversation rambles about various topics, and everyone, except baby
Orac, gets time on the tape with Joe leading the discussion, and Sheelagh
sometimes adding comments. Francis talks about his work fourth season, and
Boucher talks about the series in general. Gareth and Paul add various
comments throughout. Gareth talks about what he thought about Blake as a
hero and the last episode. Paul talks about the upcoming two part movie
which might start production in April 2001. From what he says, one assumes
only Avon will be in the movie and basically it will have a new cast of
younger characters. It will almost be like a Blake's 7: The Next
Generation. The basic setting is twenty years after "Blake."
There are two easy ways to order this tape which is 8.25 pounds for UK
residents and $15 for Americans, price including postage. Judith Proctor's
site offers this and tapes 3-6 for sale on her website which now can
accommodate credit cards. The site is http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7. Of
this series, the first two tapes, Blake's Back and Liberatored, are out of
stock. The remaining tapes which are the same price are
Action, Kingmaker, Elements, and Solstice. I own all seven and think most
B7 fans would like to have them. Perhaps if there are enough requests, the
first two tapes will be reissued. I hope so, as these are my two absolute
favorites of the series.
The second way to get these is directly through Sheelagh. She gives fast
service and accepts both American cash and American checks. To order, use
this address:
Sheelagh J. Wells, 20 A New Road, Brentford, Middlesex TW8 ONX, England.
The last I knew Wells was still offering photos and lithographic prints for
sale and these are lovely. IF you are a new customer, ask Wells for a flyer
about her photos and prints. Everything I have bought from Sheelagh has been
delivered promptly and is of the highest quality. You can't go wrong with
her merchandise.
Joyce Bowen JEB31538@cs.com
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:08:55 -0400
From: "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet.att.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] NYC Tape Rentals
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"Mrs. Hudson's Video Library," a video store located at 573 Hudson Street in
New York City, has all 26 B7 tapes available for rental, so you can send
NYC-area New Souls for the Faith there.
Their phone number is (212) 989-1050, hours 11 am -10 pm. They do have some
of the Lord Peter Wimsey series with Ian Carmichael, but not (or not yet)
"Murder Must Advertise." Of course not--that would be too easy.
Hudson Street is in the West Village. Mrs. Hudson's is down the block from
Myers of Keswick, grocer & provisioner to the British expat community. So
you can get a pork pie, bottle of Ribena, or box of PG Tips en route. (Too
bad they're not called PGP Tips, they could take out banner ads on e-zines.)
-(Y)
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