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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 150
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Re: reviews/ages/SCHOOL & stuff
[B7L] Fan artist goes pro?
Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
[B7L] Dead husband
[B7L] City at the Edge of the World
[B7L] zine orders
Re: [B7L] City at the Edge of the World
Re: [B7L] new versus old crew (was Terminal)
[B7L] War Wounds
Re: [B7L] Cally's death cry (was Sarcophagus)
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:54:09 -0700
From: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: reviews/ages/SCHOOL & stuff
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begin Julie Horner quotation:
> Finally I can read the messages sent by Nick Moffit.
"Moffitt"
--
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You are not entitled to your opinions.
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:16:46 -0700
From: "Sarah Thompson" <sthompson162@mindspring.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Fan artist goes pro?
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I was reading back issues of =Locus= on the way to and from MediaWest, and I
noticed something of B7-fannish interest. On p. 38 of the January 2000
issue, in the review of the art show at the 1999 World Fantasy Convention
(held in Providence, RI, in November 1999), Karen Haber said:
"And attention must be paid to... Marianne Plumridge's delightful
paintings-- especially =Rainbow Mothrum= and painted ostrich eggs....
"In a word, wow. I didn't envy the judges their jobs. Every art show
should be this good."
I thought that name was familiar, and sure enough, according to my notes,
Marianne Plumridge had art in =Chronicles= 25, 40, 44, and 52, =Horizon= 14,
and =The Ultimate Mary Sue=, as well as at least two calendars (for 1989 and
1993; there may be others that I don't know about).
I assume this must be the same person, since it's such an unusual name. If
anyone knows her, please congratulate her for the good review.
Sarah T.
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:05:59 +1000
From: steven and helen <scurry@mikka.net.au>
To: Blakes7 Mailing List <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
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At 20:12 30/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>From: Sally Manton wrote :
>
>> Notwithstanding that I do think he is - in some ways - closer to and more
>> comfortable with Vila - I have to say Cally is the *only* other one of the
>> entire Liberator/Scorpio crews I can even imagine him going to Terminal
>for
>> (and I'm still dubious, but with Cally there is that maybe).
>
>Yes, I agree, there does seem to be a special relationship between Avon and
>Vila, maybe its just admiration for his skills, or the amount they've been
>through together. I'm sure Vila helped save Avon's neck a few times.
>
>Steve Dobson.
Hi
I think, in the third season at least (I haven't seen the fourth yet) there
is often a definite divide between new crew and old crew, episodes like
Volcano and Ultraworld where Dayna and Tarrant work on one thing and Avon,
Vila and/or Cally do another. I agree that Avon and Vila definately seem to
have a special relationship but its also possible that this comes mostly
from knowing exactly what they can expect from one another in whatever
circumstances.
I'm new here by the way, my name's Jessica.
Jessica
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 04:32:52 PDT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
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Steve wrote:
<Yes, I agree, there does seem to be a special relationship between Avon and
Vila,>
There is <g> - I call it a Mutual Disparagement Society, which is as near as
I can get to the right flavour. Takes a while to click in (Bounty is where I
think it starts really working) but it's quite wonderful to watch. They've
no illusions about each other - the mixture of respect (for each other's
skills) contempt (for each other's characters) and genuine liking is unique.
But I still don't think Avon would've gone to Terminal for Vila's sake ...
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:37:31 -0400
From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
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Jessica wrote :
> I think, in the third season at least (I haven't seen the fourth yet)
there
> is often a definite divide between new crew and old crew, episodes like
> Volcano and Ultraworld where Dayna and Tarrant work on one thing and Avon,
> Vila and/or Cally do another. I agree that Avon and Vila definately seem
to
> have a special relationship but its also possible that this comes mostly
> from knowing exactly what they can expect from one another in whatever
> circumstances.
Yes, you see it in "City" too, Avon and Cally join up with Tarrant and Dayna
together. There probably is more of a degree of trust between Avon, Cally
and Vila after what they've been through, and Avon definitely thought
Tarrant was too carefree and too much of a risk taker.
> I'm new here by the way, my name's Jessica.
Welcome to the list!
Steve Dobson.
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:40:42 -0400
From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
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Sally Manton wrote :
> There is <g> - I call it a Mutual Disparagement Society, which is as near
as
> I can get to the right flavour. Takes a while to click in (Bounty is where
I
> think it starts really working) but it's quite wonderful to watch. They've
> no illusions about each other - the mixture of respect (for each other's
> skills) contempt (for each other's characters) and genuine liking is
unique.
And it does produce some very funny scenes too! The apologetic look on
Avon's face when he wacks Vila after opening the cell door in Redemption is
priceless!
Steve Dobson.
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:40:00 +0100
From: Alison Page <alison_page@becta.org.uk>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Terminal (was Sarcophagus)
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Jessica (hello to the list Jessica) said
>>there is often a definite divide between new crew and old crew, episodes
like Volcano and Ultraworld where Dayna and Tarrant work on one thing and
Avon, Vila and/or Cally do another.<<
Completely agree with you about that. I know there are a couple of us who
see it as rather a generational thing. Vila and Avon and Cally are just
older and more battered by life than Dayna and Tarrant. I think the cast on
both sides of this divide do an excellent job of portraying this.
Alison
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:46:17 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Dead husband
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Obituaries of guest stars' spouses - part two in an occasional and
extremely obscure series
I noticed in today's Guardian an obituary of Nicholas Clay, the husband of
Lorna Heilbron (Anna). He is described by Clive Merrison as "quite the
most beautiful man I had ever seen, gallingly handsome and awesomely
athletic" and had a long list of credits, including Lancelot in the film
Excalibur. Clay and Heilbron were married in 1980, the year Rumours of
Death was broadcast. They had two daughters. Curiously, Anna's on-screen
husband Chesku is listed as "Peter Clay" - I don't know if there's any
connection. I was interested to note that Lorna Heilbron is described as
"psychotherapist and actress".
Harriet
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:43:30 EDT
From: RCalla6725@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] City at the Edge of the World
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I've never seen this episode before - does the title intentionally rip off
the Star Trek one? (City at the Edge of Forever)
Richard
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:09:59 +0200
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] zine orders
Message-ID: <2bST3LAndUN5EwTK@jajones.demon.co.uk>
I'm down to one or two copies on Tales 1, Vem Quest and Endless Farce. I
hope to do a print run tomorrow or Friday - this may be my last chance
to do any printing for some months, so if you were planning on buying
any of my zines at Red Rose, or by mail order in the next couple of
months, say so now. Americans should note that I will probably be in the
US in late summer, but probably won't be at Eclecticon - again, say now
if you're likely to want to buy any of the older zines at US domestic
postage rates.
Please send any replies to zineorder@jajones.demon.co.uk (the Reply-to
header is set appropriately), to avoid annoying the rest of the list and
to make sure I read it in time.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:20:49 -0400
From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] City at the Edge of the World
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Well a little. The Trek episode - a classic story and award winning
episode - centered around a gateway which transverses space and time. The
B7 City episode was a gateway that covered space only.
Every 30 or so years, the inhabitants of Kezarn would locate someone who
would try to unlock the gateway. One end is on Kezarn, the other end of the
gateway is located on a ship traveling through space. The spaceship end of
the door will only open when a suitable planet is found for colonization.
This time, the first went to a guy called Bayban - played by Colin Baker.
He failed to get the door open, so tricked Tarrant into sending Vila to
help.
Any more info would spoil the episode for you when you do get to see it.
Steve Dobson.
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From: <RCalla6725@aol.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Sent: May 31, 2000 12:43 PM
Subject: [B7L] City at the Edge of the World
> I've never seen this episode before - does the title intentionally rip off
> the Star Trek one? (City at the Edge of Forever)
>
>
> Richard
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 20:52:12 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] new versus old crew (was Terminal)
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To Jessica's:
>> I think, in the third season at least (I haven't seen the fourth yet)
there is often a definite divide between new crew and old crew, episodes
like Volcano and Ultraworld where Dayna and Tarrant work on one thing and
Avon, Vila and/or Cally do another. I agree that Avon and Vila definately
seem to have a special relationship but its also possible that this comes
mostly from knowing exactly what they can expect from one another in
whatever circumstances.
Steve Dobson added:
>Yes, you see it in "City" too, Avon and Cally join up with Tarrant and
Dayna together. There probably is more of a degree of trust between Avon,
Cally and Vila after what they've been through, and Avon definitely thought
Tarrant was too carefree and too much of a risk taker.
Harvest is the exception, with Tarrant choosing Cally rather than Dayna to
accompany him. To me that doesn't feel right. But then, there's a lot in
that episode that doesn't feel right, IMO :-)
Marian
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:01:23 -0400
From: "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet.att.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] War Wounds
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OK, I'm in trouble if the FBI Serial Killer Profiler Unit is reading this,
but I really do want to know for purposes of creating fanfic rather than
eliminating droves of people. For the various weapons shown in the series,
what exactly happens when someone gets shot by one of them? (Well, I can
figure out "stun.") That is, what kind of injuries could be expected in
terms of blood loss, fractures, burns, neurological damage, size of exit
wounds, etc., and what is the time frame for getting treatment for the
injured person?
-(Y)
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:50:09 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Cally's death cry (was Sarcophagus)
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Ellynne G. wrote:
>Well, I'm perfectly willing to believe Avon thought Cally died without
forgiving him and that he thought her death cry reflected any range of
things he could take badly. Add to that his knowing that it was his
failure at Terminal that (he thinks) got her killed, plus knowing she
_was_ in love with him (or having reasonable ground to convince himself of
this after [and he'd want to just because it would give him more guilt]) and
he had never done anything about it (contradictory with the "Blake!" cry,
but I have never noticed Avon to be logical if it would make him feel less
miserable).<
Avon was not present to hear Cally's death cry, so he would not know about
it unless Vila told him (and I can't see that happen before the shuttle
incident). Or did she telepath it? In that case he could have picked it
up, but I don't remember seeing that. [So I'll have to watch that episode
again. :-)]
Marian
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