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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 00 : Issue 231

Today's Topics:
  [B7L] Re: The Way Back                [ Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk> ]
  [B7L] Re: The Way Back                [ "Lysias" <lysias@apexmail.com> ]
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.con ]
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.con ]
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.con ]
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com ]
  Re: [B7L] Re: The Way Back            [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
  Re: [B7L] The Way Back                [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.co ]
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmai ]
  Re: [B7L] Showing my ignorance        [ "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmai ]
  Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic                [ "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmai ]
  [B7L] Beauty and the Blake            [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
  Re: [B7L] Re: [B7] Haiku-tastic       [ Penny Dreadful <pennydreadful@power ]
  Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake        [ mistral@ptinet.net ]
  Re: [B7L] The Way Back                [ "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect. ]
  [B7L] Quick Episode List              [ "Ann Basart" <abasart@dnai.com> ]
  Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake        [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
  Re: [B7L] The Way Back                [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
  [B7L] Gareth at Cult TV               [ Mac4781@aol.com ]
  [B7L] b7 mention                      [ "Deborah Day" <d.day@ukgateway.net> ]
  Re: [B7L] The Way Back                [ Jacqueline Thijsen <inquisitioner@w ]

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:15:16 GMT
From: Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: The Way Back
Message-Id: <200008151815.TAA09794@smtp.uk2net.com>

Judith : 
"Only once in the series does a character
> goof and say 'beam me up' but I can't recall which episode so don't know
> who
> wrote it."
> 

Steve R:

> I don't see why this is a goof. There is no reason to assume the term
> 'beam me up' wasn't known, just maybe a piece of slang not commonly
> used, which is why we only hear it once. After all, this is in the
> future and they may have watched old Star Trek shows on whatever their
> equivaent to UK Gold is.

Blake won't let them watch Trek because it's such blatant Federation 
propaganda. 

Love,
Ika

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:28:49 -0800
From: "Lysias" <lysias@apexmail.com>
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Ika wrote:

>Blake won't let them watch Trek because it's such blatant Federation 
>propaganda. 

Which makes it all the more likely that Avon is watching it on the sly. =
 ;-)


--
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:43:10 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re:  [B7L] Haiku-tastic
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Me/Ika:

> > (BTW, I found that I had a pre-typed
> > out episode list for just this sort of task - does anyone else have one
of
> > those?).
>
> Mine is handwritten and has stars against all the ones with Servalan in
and T's
> against all the ones with Travis in. It lives on the floor next to my
computer.

Oh, that's much classier.


> > Anyway, currently unhaiku-ed:
> > Sand
>
> Fantasy writers
> Should not be allowed to get
> Their hands on Servie.

:)  Splendid! (Even though I like 'Sand'.)


> (PS: dissertation going well, Una, as you can
> see...)

I'm very proud to have offered alternative entertainment <g>


Una

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:45:38 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
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Me responding to me (really should get out more...):

> Anyway, currently unhaiku-ed:

> The Keeper

Jenna, caught again
By aliens, hears the crew
Cry, 'Keep her! Keep her!'


Una

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:08:59 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "'B7 Lysator'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
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Louise:

> Hmmm, I sent this 24 hours ago and it hasn't come back t me. Apologies if
you all now receive 2 copies.....

Through safe and sound this time.


> OK, bait swallowed, here we go:
>
> Dawn of the Gods:
> Drivel for a plot
> Even a dearth of good lines
> Chris Boucher on strike?

<g>


> Traitor:
> Rebels in the mud,
> Dying betrayed, little hope.
> Reality bites.

Excellent stuff!


> Voice from the Past:
> Travis the mummy!
> So why do we watch at all?
> We like the black shirt....

Damn right!


Una

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:14:53 GMT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
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Una wrote:
<(BTW, I found that I had a pre-typed out episode list for just this sort of 
task - does anyone else have one of those?).>

Got a list on the computer page I write my burblings on, but it went up in 
order of merit and memorability (IMO) not chronology ...

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:37:58 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: The Way Back
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On Mon 14 Aug, Steve Rogerson wrote:
> Judith said: "Only once in the series does a character
> goof and say 'beam me up' but I can't recall which episode so don't know
> who
> wrote it."
> 
> I don't see why this is a goof. There is no reason to assume the term
> 'beam me up' wasn't known, just maybe a piece of slang not commonly
> used, which is why we only hear it once. After all, this is in the
> future and they may have watched old Star Trek shows on whatever their
> equivaent to UK Gold is.

The Star Trek special effect looked like a beam in the transporter room (and I
seem to recall the original aim was to have a beam SFX to the planet) -
presumably the origin of the phrase.

As B7 deliberately avoide ST terminology as a rule - eg. force wall for shield -
I think the usage was an accident.  (there might well have been copyright
implications in any case.)

Judith

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:40:00 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back
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On Mon 14 Aug, Christine+Steve wrote:
> >
> > Always looked like a solid wall being made transparant to me.  The barrier
> is
> > still there - Varon can't get into the cell.
> 
> Guess so.  Although that shows inconsistencies with the other parts of the
> episode.  Why would the cells in the pre-trial area be hidden by a solid
> wall, but the transportation holding area cells are open for all to see?

Maybe those who haven't been convicted are entitled to more privacy?  Seems at
least possible.

> Blake's cell in the trial area is similar to the one he's in when he first
> meets Varon - it would've been good for the Federation to be able to
> teleport the entire cell and its occupant around.  But in the end, we know
> they didn't have teleportation.

Well, they'd had occasional succeses, but never on living beings.

Judith
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:42:17 EST
From: "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
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>From: Ika <blake@gaudaprime.co.uk>
>Fantasy writers
>Should not be allowed to get
>Their hands on Servie.

<wiping milk off keyboard and screen> Thanks, Ika...

Regards
Joanne
(that'll teach me)


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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:13:44 EST
From: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
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Ika:
> > Sand
>
>Fantasy writers
>Should not be allowed to get
>Their hands on Servie.
>
>Or:
>
>Wonderful woman
>Transformed into soppy tart
>By lame plot device

Oh my gosh, they're brilliant Ika, and so, so true.
Jessica.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:16:52 EST
From: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Showing my ignorance
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Me:
> >I've been trying to work out <veg> and <g> for ages.

Penny
>http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/abbrev.html
>
>ObB7: "ObB7".
>
>--P.D., C.E.O. of FINALACT (the only acronym you *really* need to know)

Wow, someone has some time on their hands, Thanks Penny.

Jessica
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:49:44 EST
From: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Haiku-tastic
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Gosh, all the Haiku that's come in has been great fun to read. I did a few 
more, last ones from me, I promise.

The Keeper

In search of a map
Jenna gets a new dress, but
the fool is wisest.

Voice From The Past

I was sure I'd seen
This episode, I forget
What happened again?

Headhunter

Crew work together
And a happy ending too
Hey, what show is this?

Power

Pella needs the ship
To escape from certain death
So Avon  kills her


Best wishes to all.
Jessica






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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:32:02 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake
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Not going to work this into a mini-fic today, but has anyone besides me
noticed the similarities between a certain fairy tale and the episode
Blake?

Blake (the Prince) has been hideously transformed (scarred eye, general
appearance of a Federation supporter) by unknown parties (probably a very
ticked off smuggler who'd waited long enough for him to ask her out).  He
lives in a rather spooky castle in the middle of nowhere (no explanations
needed, right?) and is waiting for Someone to come a deliver him from his
curse.

Tarrant comes along, playing the father's role by having his life saved
and being allowed to stay in the enchanted castle (we are not going with
the Disney version here [although anyone who wants to refer to Deva & co.
as Cogsworth, Lumiere, and Mrs. Potts has my permission to do so]). 
Things Don't Go Right and Tarrant receives (he thinks) a chance to save
his life by making a trade for Avon (which [oh, gee, how did this
happen?] makes him Beauty, doesn't it?).

"Oh, good," thinks Blake, "Avon will see the truth and trust me, rescuing
me from this awful curse.  Of course, I'll also have to put up with a lot
of sarcastic comments but, after I explain I was waiting for him to get
me out of this mess, everything will be all right (and maybe I will aske
Jenna out, just to keep something like this from happening again)."

Which just goes to show, when it comes to fairy tales, casting the right
people in the right parts is everything if you want a happy ending.

Ellynne
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:20:45 -0600
From: Penny Dreadful <pennydreadful@powersurfr.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: [B7] Haiku-tastic
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At 01:19 AM 8/15/00 -0400, Gary wrote:

>Good, bad or just dangerous to contemplate?

All of the above.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:20:43 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Ellynne G. wrote:

> Not going to work this into a mini-fic today, but has anyone besides me
> noticed the similarities between a certain fairy tale and the episode
> Blake?

Interesting! I've been trying to work out a version of B & B with
Servalan and Travis; thought about Servalan and Avon and
discarded it. Maybe I could make it work with Servalan as both?
Hm. Like yours, though the thought of Avon asking anyone, let
alone Tarrant, to bring him home roses is a bit much.

Mistral
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:54:26 -0400
From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Judith Proctor added to my post

> > Guess so.  Although that shows inconsistencies with the other parts of
the
> > episode.  Why would the cells in the pre-trial area be hidden by a solid
> > wall, but the transportation holding area cells are open for all to see?
>
> Maybe those who haven't been convicted are entitled to more privacy?
Seems at
> least possible.

Yes its possible.  But privacy for Federation prisoners?  Doesn't seem to me
something the administration would go for.


> > Blake's cell in the trial area is similar to the one he's in when he
first
> > meets Varon - it would've been good for the Federation to be able to
> > teleport the entire cell and its occupant around.  But in the end, we
know
> > they didn't have teleportation.
>
> Well, they'd had occasional succeses, but never on living beings.

Yep, with Avon and Blake both working on the project.  I was actually quite
surprised that with all the pre-war resources of the Federation, that they
couldn't get a system that worked.  Maybe they got close, but the
intergalactic war cut them off.

Steve Dobson.

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 06:18:14 -0700
From: "Ann Basart" <abasart@dnai.com>
To: "Blake's7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Quick Episode List
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Here's a list of episodes in case anyone wants to download it.
Best, Ann
abasart@dnai.com

First Season

1-1 [1] The Way Back

1-2 [2] Space Fall=20

1-3 [3] Cygnus Alpha=20

1-4 [4] Time Squad=20

1-5 [5] The Web=20

1-6 [6] Seek-Locate-Destroy=20

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1-9 [9] Project Avalon

1-10 [10] Breakdown=20

1-11 [11] Bounty=20

1-12 [12] Deliverance=20

1-13 [13] Orac=20

Second Season

2-1 [14] Redemption=20

2-2 [15] Shadow=20

2-3 [16] Weapon=20

2-4 [17] Horizon=20

2-5 [18] Pressure Point=20

2-6 [19] Trial=20

2-7 [20] Killer=20

2-8 [21] Hostage=20

2-9 [22] Countdown=20

2-10 [23] Voice From The Past=20

2-11 [24] Gambit=20

2-12 [25] The Keeper=20

2-13 [26] Star One=20





Third Season

3-1 [27] Aftermath=20

3-2 [28] Powerplay=20

3-3 [29] Volcano

3-4 [30] Dawn of the Gods

3-5 [31] Harvest of Kairos=20

3-6 [32] City at the Edge of World=20

3-7 [33] Children of Auron

3-8 [34] Rumours of Death

3-9 [35] Sarcophagus

3-10 [36] Ultraworld=20

3-11 [37] Moloch=20

3-12 [38] Death-Watch=20

3-13 [39] Terminal=20

Fourth Season

4-1 [40] Rescue

4-2 [41] Power=20

4-3 [42] Traitor=20

4-4 [43] Stardrive

4-5 [44] Animals=20

4-6 [45] Headhunter

4-7 [46] Assassin=20

4-8 [47] Games=20

4-9 [48] Sand=20

4-10 [49] Gold

4-11 [50] Orbit

4-12 [51] Warlord

4-13 [52] Blake


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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:45:39 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:20:43 -0700 mistral@ptinet.net writes:
>
> Interesting! I've been trying to work out a version of B & B with
> Servalan and Travis; thought about Servalan and Avon and
> discarded it. Maybe I could make it work with Servalan as both?
> Hm. Like yours, though the thought of Avon asking anyone, let
> alone Tarrant, to bring him home roses is a bit much.
> 
Maybe it was like the old Cinderella, and he told him to bring back the
first thing that hit him in the nose.

Ellynne
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:55:43 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:54:26 -0400 "Christine+Steve"
<cgorman@idirect.com> writes:
> Judith Proctor added to my post
> >
> > Maybe those who haven't been convicted are entitled to more 
> privacy?
> Seems at
> > least possible.
> 
> Yes its possible.  But privacy for Federation prisoners?  Doesn't 
> seem to me
> something the administration would go for.
> 
Perhaps not so much privacy as higher sercurity, a cell that couldn't be
seen unless the right buttons were pushed and that let you look at the
prisoner without the prisoner seeing you.

The transportees had a lower security cell without these features,
although they probably sent in extra guards once Blake was in there.
 
> Yep, with Avon and Blake both working on the project.  I was 
> actually quite
> surprised that with all the pre-war resources of the Federation, 
> that they
> couldn't get a system that worked.  Maybe they got close, but the
> intergalactic war cut them off.
> 
Possibilities: Blake, if he were in an drugged and mind washed state,
might not have been at his best.  If he were in an active rebel state, he
might not have wanted to give them his best effort.

Avon may have been looking for ways to make a buck from the project and
only had limited interest in its success.  OTOH, he may have had a boss
who got his job strictly through connections rather than ability, who
kept shooting down his suggestions (the ones he didn't try to take credit
for but then implimented in the wrong way, because he didn't understand
them, and then tried to put the blame on Avon).  Hmm, and could this
guy's name have been Chesku? Either that or Dogbert.  And did Avon decide
hard work was not its own reward about this time and start trying to
break into Chesku's bank?

Ellynne

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:14:07 EDT
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, freedom-city@blakes-7.org
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This news just in from Horizon:

GARETH THOMAS Here's some news for anyone out there still undecided about 
booking up for Cult TV 2000 - they now have Gareth Thomas confirmed as a 
guest for the weekend, joining Stephen Greif, Martin Bower & Roger 
Murray-Leach in the Blake's 7 corner, not to mention 20+ other Cult guests.  
Full details of Cult TV's guests including photos and biographies are 
available at their official website   www.cult-tv.org

Plus full details can also be found at www.cult-tv.net.

Carol Mc

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:06:42 +0100
From: "Deborah Day" <d.day@ukgateway.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] b7 mention
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In the Saturday Telegraph there was an article about a designer called
Annabel Blake, and the heading was Blake's Heaven.  Nice to know they still
think it will be recognised after all these years.  That set me to thinking,
why the Telegraph?  It is (or tries to be) a fairly highbrow sort of paper,
and Blake's 7 was often derided as being a kid's show.  Thinking back on it,
B7 was usually scheduled in the UK opposite Coronation Street, about the
most popular soap opera of the time, so since this was in the days before
video recorders were common you had to watch either one or the other.
Second TV sets were fairly rare then too, compared with these days.  So
maybe in general the working classes watched Corrie, and the middle classes
watched B7?  I don't know, but it was just a thought.

Debbie.

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:26:40 +0200
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <inquisitioner@wish.net>
To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back
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At 13:54 16-8-00, Steve wrote:
>Judith Proctor added to my post
>
> > > Guess so.  Although that shows inconsistencies with the other parts of
>the
> > > episode.  Why would the cells in the pre-trial area be hidden by a solid
> > > wall, but the transportation holding area cells are open for all to see?
> >
> > Maybe those who haven't been convicted are entitled to more privacy?
>Seems at
> > least possible.
>
>Yes its possible.  But privacy for Federation prisoners?  Doesn't seem to me
>something the administration would go for.

I entirely agree. I never thought the opaque wall was for the comfort of 
the prisoners. IMO it was there for the comfort of those working in the 
trial area. Those would mostly be higher officials, who wouldn't want to be 
exposed to the dregs of society being locked in there any more than 
absolutely necessary. The setup with the walls ensured that they only had 
to see a prisoner when one of them happened to be talking to his lawyer or 
when he was on trial. The transportation holding cells were elsewhere and 
guarded only by Federation guards, who would be a lot less squeamish about 
having to see the prisoners. I didn't see any officials wandering around there.

Jacqueline

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