From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #232 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume00/232 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 232 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ] [B7L] Re: Before bed [ Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@comp ] Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ] Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake [ B7Morrigan@aol.com ] [B7L] Re: b7 mention [ Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1 ] Re: [B7L] Re: b7 mention [ "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.con ] Re: [B7L] The Way Back [ "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect. ] Re: [B7L] The Way Back [ "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect. ] [B7L] New frame captures [ "Kinkade, Carol A" <Carol.Kinkade@W ] [B7L] Re: Well Spotted?! [ rpdavies@excite.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:52:25 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0816065225-0b0Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed 16 Aug, Ellynne G. wrote: > > Things Don't Go Right and Tarrant receives (he thinks) a chance to save > his life by making a trade for Avon (which [oh, gee, how did this > happen?] makes him Beauty, doesn't it?). I must have missed that bit when I watched the episode... I'm not exactly a major Tarrant fan, but my recollection is rather the opposite - he refused to sell out Avon. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:23:14 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Re: Before bed Message-ID: <200008161623_MC2-AFFC-7CD7@compuserve.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Louise replied to Steve: >>My initial reaction was it has to be Buffy. But >> then thinking about it, I normally watch a Star = >>Trek: TNG before bed. > >After all, if you watched something exciting it might wake you up :-) Steve can testify that the last time I watched Buffy I fell asleep halfwa= y through and had to ask what happened when I revived after the closing credits. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:29:55 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake Message-ID: <20000816.222959.-88665.0.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:52:25 +0100 (BST) Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com> writes: > On Wed 16 Aug, Ellynne G. wrote: > > > > Things Don't Go Right and Tarrant receives (he thinks) a chance to > save > > his life by making a trade for Avon (which [oh, gee, how did this > > happen?] makes him Beauty, doesn't it?). > > I must have missed that bit when I watched the episode... > > I'm not exactly a major Tarrant fan, but my recollection is rather > the opposite > - he refused to sell out Avon. > I didn't say he _took_ the chance. I said he _received_ the chance. Look, it's not as easy as it looks making this fairy tale fit. I just had it in my head when something in a post made me think of the last scene in Blake, and then I thought "Scarred Blake=Beast," only Avon doesn't quite play out the role of seeing through appearances on this one - but there _was_ the element of the Bad Ending only being avoidable by appearances being seen through. The whole idea seemed to click. The rest, I admit, was a little bit of hammering square pegs into round holes (hey, Tarrant as Avon's father? I mean _really_). But, I figure throw in some musical numbers and animation, slap on a Disney logo (tilted 90 degrees), and it could work. Hey, I'm getting an idea for a great song and dance number, Blake and everyone at the base explaining the set up to the Federation spy girl, singing "It's Our Test" to the tune of "Be Our Guest." Now, for the rest.... Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:37:25 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Beauty and the Blake Message-ID: <cc.8e1f618.26ccc605@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Elynne: > But, I figure throw in some musical numbers and animation, slap on a > Disney logo (tilted 90 degrees), and it could work. Hey, I'm getting an > idea for a great song and dance number, Blake and everyone at the base > explaining the set up to the Federation spy girl, singing "It's Our Test" > to the tune of "Be Our Guest." Now, for the rest.... Well, we already saw the teapot and the other Disney characters in Star One. Perhaps they could make a repeat appearance... Filkers, that's a song challenge if I've ever heard one. Morrigan "When I get a little money I buy zines; and if any is left I buy food and clothes." (apologies to Erasmus) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:28:21 +0000 From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: b7 mention Message-ID: <399B31A5.51C6BDB1@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Debbie wrote: "In the Saturday Telegraph there was an article about a designer called Annabel Blake, and the heading was Blake's Heaven. Nice to know they still think it will be recognised after all these years. That set me to thinking, why the Telegraph? It is (or tries to be) a fairly highbrow sort of paper, and Blake's 7 was often derided as being a kid's show." The thing is, in those days we only had three channels to choose from. Given 8 to 10 million watched B7 every week, that meant a large chunk of the population (we are talking 90 per cent plus here) either watched the show or knew someone who watched the show. Think about it, at work the next day when people were talking about what they watched the night before, there was almost certainly someone who watched B7. Therefore it is not unreasonable for a national newspaper to think the pun is worth it - especially when it works as a straight headline for those that don't. I did it on a trade mag I work on recently, as a catch to a picture caption about a device that accepted seven inputs; the caption was: "Takes seven: Autocarrier allows multiple phone routing" and the publisher ok'ed it for probably the same reason (the takes seven element was a minor feature). The next issue I headlined a feature "Rumours of Death", I just hope there is a B7 fan in our readership who is appreciating this. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption: The Blake's 7 and Babylon 5 convention 23-25 February 2001, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 06:24:00 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: b7 mention Message-ID: <077501c0080b$80753000$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve wrote: > Debbie wrote: > > > "In the Saturday Telegraph there was an article about a designer called > > Annabel Blake, and the heading was Blake's Heaven. Nice to know they still > > think it will be recognised after all these years. > > The thing is, in those days we only had three channels to choose from. > Given 8 to 10 million watched B7 every week, that meant a large chunk of > the population (we are talking 90 per cent plus here) either watched the > show or knew someone who watched the show. Wasn't ITV also on strike for some of this period? Isn't that why season 17 of Dr Who gets such enormous ratings in 1979, despite it being totally pants (OK, arguably pants). Even if the strike wasn't on, people might just have got into the habit of watching the BBC more. > I did it on a trade mag I work on recently, as a catch to a picture > caption about a device that accepted seven inputs; the caption was: > "Takes seven: Autocarrier allows multiple phone routing" and the > publisher ok'ed it for probably the same reason (the takes seven element > was a minor feature). The next issue I headlined a feature "Rumours of > Death", I just hope there is a B7 fan in our readership who is > appreciating this. You're a star, Steve. Una ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:09:26 -0400 From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com> To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back Message-ID: <007601c00844$103ff840$2c029ad8@cgorman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ellynne G. wrote > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:54:26 -0400 "Christine+Steve" > <cgorman@idirect.com> writes: > > Yes its possible. But privacy for Federation prisoners? Doesn't > > seem to me > > something the administration would go for. > > > Perhaps not so much privacy as higher sercurity, a cell that couldn't be > seen unless the right buttons were pushed and that let you look at the > prisoner without the prisoner seeing you. Yes, sounds good. I guess the wall could be set to one way only, so the prisoner could be observed in person, and with the wall up the area would still be quiet. > The transportees had a lower security cell without these features, > although they probably sent in extra guards once Blake was in there. Probably right. I'm thinking that with the holding area, once outside the actual cell, it might not be too difficult to get to the suface. It has to be fairly close to the landing area to allow a minium transportation time from the cell to the waiting ship. > > Yep, with Avon and Blake both working on the project. I was > > actually quite > > surprised that with all the pre-war resources of the Federation, > > that they > > couldn't get a system that worked. Maybe they got close, but the > > intergalactic war cut them off. > > > Possibilities: Blake, if he were in an drugged and mind washed state, > might not have been at his best. If he were in an active rebel state, he > might not have wanted to give them his best effort. Yes. I've wondered how federation citizens were supposed to work at full efficiency even though they were drugged up. Maybe they thought that with his deep brain washing, Blake didn't need high levels of supressants. > Avon may have been looking for ways to make a buck from the project and > only had limited interest in its success. OTOH, he may have had a boss > who got his job strictly through connections rather than ability, who > kept shooting down his suggestions (the ones he didn't try to take credit > for but then implimented in the wrong way, because he didn't understand > them, and then tried to put the blame on Avon). Hmm, and could this > guy's name have been Chesku? Either that or Dogbert. And did Avon decide > hard work was not its own reward about this time and start trying to > break into Chesku's bank? Maybe Avon was just using the teleport experiments as a front to have access to the Federation's computers. Going through the motions, not really doing too much work, to allow him free time to work on his own projects. If Dogbert was there... he'd have probably taken all the credits before anyone else had a chance. Steve Dobson. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:11:27 -0400 From: "Christine+Steve" <cgorman@idirect.com> To: "B7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back Message-ID: <007701c00844$57f13dc0$2c029ad8@cgorman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacqueline Thijsen wrote > At 13:54 16-8-00, Steve wrote: > >Yes its possible. But privacy for Federation prisoners? Doesn't seem to me > >something the administration would go for. > > I entirely agree. I never thought the opaque wall was for the comfort of > the prisoners. IMO it was there for the comfort of those working in the > trial area. Those would mostly be higher officials, who wouldn't want to be > exposed to the dregs of society being locked in there any more than > absolutely necessary. The setup with the walls ensured that they only had > to see a prisoner when one of them happened to be talking to his lawyer or > when he was on trial. The transportation holding cells were elsewhere and > guarded only by Federation guards, who would be a lot less squeamish about > having to see the prisoners. I didn't see any officials wandering around there. Yes, I guess the area would have been pretty busy, with defence lawyers and other officials working in the area. Out of sight - out of mind. Steve Dobson. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:36:50 -0700 From: "Kinkade, Carol A" <Carol.Kinkade@West.Boeing.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] New frame captures Message-Id: <B12052866F7AD211BE530008C7A4C64B034259D2@xch-hbc-04.co.bna.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain THANK YOU, LISA!!!!! -----Original Message----- "Rumours of Death" has been added to my frame capture library. There are 180 images in this set. The library can be found at: http://lcw.simplenet.com/b7lib.html - Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:40:43 -0700 (PDT) From: rpdavies@excite.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Well Spotted?! Message-ID: <30892762.966544843755.JavaMail.imail@ringo.excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I spotted Ensor's guardian robot from Orac in the video for Bronski Beat's Why (1984). It appears for a few seconds as a product on the shelf of a surreal Supermarket. Richard Davies _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #232 **************************************