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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 00 : Issue 260

Today's Topics:
  [B7L] Re: To Heck or not to Heck      [ "rita d'orac" <orac@inorbit.com> ]
  [B7L] More Rontane                    [ nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net ]
  [B7L] 54124 - the truth               [ Nicola Collie <nicola@dunedinite.fr ]
  [B7L] Vila's costumes                 [ Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net> ]
  [B7L] Re: Aronar origins              [ Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net> ]
  [B7L] More sports news (Harry Potter  [ Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net> ]
  [B7L] If anyone would like a mention  [ Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net> ]
  Re: [B7L] Re: Crossover potential?    [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
  [B7L] 1978                            [ Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demo ]
  Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]  [ Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demo ]
  [B7L] History of SF with PD           [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
  [B7L] Midsummer Night's Dream         [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
  [B7L] Travis model now available      [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
  Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]  [ "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmai ]
  Re: [B7L] Vote B7                     [ "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl> ]
  Re: [B7L] Vote B7                     [ Tavia Chalcraft <tavia@btinternet.c ]
  RE: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI p  [ nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net ]
  Midsummer Nights Dream - Review       [ "DragonFly" <dragonfly@pond65.fsnet ]
  Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]  [ Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@comp ]
  [B7L] Frame captures on CD-ROM        [ Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net> ]
  Re: [B7L] Re: Aronar origins          [ "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.n ]
  Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]  [ "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.n ]
  Re: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI p  [ "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.n ]
  [B7L] I love 1978                     [ Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones. ]
  Re: [B7L] I love 1978                 [ "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.con ]

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:24:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "rita d'orac" <orac@inorbit.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: To Heck or not to Heck
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Marian de Haan wrote:

> Well, Avon definitely says "Damn!" in Star One, or is that not
> regarded as swearing? :-)

If it is, Emma Peel did a list of all the "swearing" in Blake's 7 on:

http://www.avon.tvheaven.com/swear/swear.html

Interesting to note that there were only 7 incidents of swearing (as defined
by Emma) under Blake's leadership in seasons 1 & 2 and 30 under Avon's in
seasons 3 & 4.   Perhaps they just had more to swear about...


rita d'orac

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:40 +0100
From: nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] More Rontane
Message-Id: <20000915215734.5958753781@latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net>

I'm trying to catch up with my backlog, so I've put up another chapter in the Posthumous Memoirs of Secretary Rontane-- this one's a report on PanoptiCon 2000, held in Manchester earlier this month. Hope you like it... well, hope you *understand* it, anyway...

http://redrival.com/nyder/rontane.html 

Fiona
http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:23:51 +0100
From: Nicola Collie <nicola@dunedinite.free-online.co.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] 54124 - the truth
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The real reason why Avon spotted that 54124 spells 'Sara' is because he is
accustomed to reading numerals as letters. After all, he *is* a 133T
|-|4x0r d3\/\/d.

I'll get my coat.

Nicola

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:12:02 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Vila's costumes
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> 
> The 4th season outfit with the ring pattern always smacked a little too much of
> uniform to me - I didn't like it when everyone seemed to be in matching grey
> outfits.
> 
Well, to me that outfit is memorable for innapropriateness. Those ring
patterns look too much like *targets*! OTOH, they were on nonvital
parts, so in effect, was Vila tempting enemies to aim for his shoulders
rather than head and chest? Anyhow-- it's not something I would wear
when Dayna was getting cabin fever.

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:38:22 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Aronar origins
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I, for one, will opt for neither 'human transplant' (I don't like the
timeline troubles presented) nor 'convergent evolution' (see Neil's
arguements'.

One Lyst member (I've forgotten who, raise your hand) gave us the most
elegant answer as part of her complex background for a
Web-Sarcophogas-DotG-Terminal continuity solver. An extremely advanced
race or which both the Sarcophagus alien and the Auronar 'gods' were
members created intelligent menials (bipeds on the same physical plan as
themselves) to work for them. This allows humans and all humanoid aliens
to share physical attributes and many cultural ones without all
originating on the same planet. 
This could even explain linguistic duplications. The first language on
each planet would be the language of their masters.

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:46:45 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Street54@aol.com,
	"blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: Neo Sailor Saturn <neo_sailor_saturn@moonkingdom.com>
Subject: [B7L] More sports news (Harry Potter-Blake's 7 cross continues)
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WELSH TEAM FORFEITS FIRST MATCH;
SUBSTITUTES LOSE SECOND
By Prophet sportswriter  Crickett Baggins

	In sports this week, the Welsh National Quidditch Team lost its first
two
games of the season as players made good on their threat to strike in
protest of the use of house elves as custodial, box office, and
concessions workers at their stadium. 
	Team owner Sleer was furious. "They showed up for the first game but
refused
to get on their brooms! I call that both deceptive and unsporting. We
did not look for replacement players until later in the week, as we
thought Blake would see reason. He's the ringleader behind this
so-called protest, which I believe is just a ploy aimed at increasing
his worth in next season's salary negotiations. If they were really
concerned about house-elf rights, there are better ways of handling
things, ways that won't disappoint the fans or lose our chances at the
World Cup."
	Gareth Blake, team Captain and Keeper, sees things differently. "We
tried
everything to make it clear that our consciences would not allow us to
play
while elves were being abused. A stadium is no place for such sensitive
creatures. I believe we've done the right thing in bringing this to the
public's attention. A small group of students were with us picketing
outside
the stadium-we've obviously touched on a subject important to others."
    In a chat with the team on the picket line, Beater Kerr Darrow has
his own concerns. "I really am more interested in what happened to the
people who were replaced by the house elves. One of them was important
to me. Nonetheless, Sleer has a point about our chances for the World
Cup dropping the longer we abstain from
play. We came very close last year; our Seeker is one of the fastest
there is and attracted to gold like no one else. We would have beaten
the Bulgarian team if he hadn't shown up drunk to that game."
    Seeker Michael Restal objected to this. "It was just a nip to steady
my nerves."
    Darrow replied, "If your nerves were any steadier you'd fall off the
broom asleep!"
    The words belie the spirit of comraderie in the air. Can the spirit
of Blake's 7 survive withheld paychecks and the pressure of the fans?
    Says Chaser Cally Chappel, "It's about more than team spirit,
although we do believe in each other. It's about doing the right thing
and not obeying orders blindly."
    And are the rumours of Darrow's agent, Oracle Ensor, approaching
other teams about potential job offers true? None of the team would
comment, except for Blake, who told us only, "Whether he stays or not,
it has to be for his own reasons. If I tried to put pressure on him, I'd
be no better than what we're fighting."
   Hermione Granger, head of the student protesters, was asked why she
has become involved. "I was protesting for house elf rights even before
this began. In the beginning, I was a little confused, because what the
house elves wanted and what I thought they should want weren't always
the same thing. But they do care about their working conditions, and
sticking up for them is the very least a Wizard or Witch can do." Her
friend, Ron Weasley, also on the picket line, had a more moderate view.
"I mostly came along so I could meet the team. Look, I got Fred and
George's bats signed!"

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:54:05 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: "blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] If anyone would like a mention...
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I'd love to slip a few quotes from fans about the Blake's 7 Quidditch
Team strike in my next article.

Also, if any of you want to read the Daily Prophet, here's how to get
there

http://maxpages.com/grinttg

The links to the Daily Prophet issues are at the bottom left hand
column.

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:33:16 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Crossover potential?
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:43:44 GMT "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
writes:
> 
> No, no, Avon fits the best IMO (not wonderfully, but the best). I'd 
> put up 
> Blake for the Princess Leia role 

Now I'm having this picture of Avon as Luke (you'd think this would be
harder than seeing him as Han) hanging from the upside TV antenna on
Cloud City (possibly making snide comments to Orac that no, they do _not_
have cable) when Cally as Leia picks up his mental distress call....

Now, no way does she turn out to be his sister and I don't really see
Avon as being 'strong in the Force' (quite separate from possible,
repressed psi talents, which are another matter), so that brings up a
bunch of how and why questions.  The main question is whether this would
bring up questions about their _definitly_ nonconsanguineous (it's been
about ten years since consanguineous was added to my vocabulary and I
think this is the first time I've snuck it into a sentence. Persistance
_pays_!) relationship, questions that they hopefully wouldn't be to
comfortable with the answers to, because where's the fun in that?

Oh, dear, here I go again.

Ellynne

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:48:17 +0200
From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: lyst@whitecrow.demon.co.uk
Subject: [B7L] 1978
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Here in the UK, there's currently a weekly view on the years of the 1970s.
At the end of last week's 1977, they trailered tomorrow's, giving a brief
clip of B7.

steve

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:39:54 +0200
From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
Cc: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll] 
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Personally, I was quite fond of Bird of Prey. I seem to recall it
involved Richard Griffith as some computer bloke. Don't remember
much about it, though.

steve

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:08:31 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] History of SF with PD
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This one just came in from the Avon Club - sounds interesting in its own right.
 Paul's involvement is an added attraction.

Paul has just finished recording a new 4 part series for Channel 4 
television.  Called 'The History of British Science Fiction' , the series is 
due to start screening at the end of October.  Also interviewed for this 
programme were Gerry Anderson, Nigel Kneale and Iain Banks.


Judith
-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 -  Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc.  (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org )
Redemption '01  23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:01:17 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Midsummer Night's Dream
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On Sat 16 Sep, DragonFly wrote:
> hi I noticed that on Judiths page a number of you are going to see Gareth
> Thomas in a Midsummer's Night Dream in nottingham. If I had known I would've
> come and long and met you all but my hubby surprised me and had already
> booked the tickets for TOMORROW!!!

Do tell us all what it's like.  I love reading theatre reviews.

Incidentally, I've already booked the tickets for the group outing, but if
anyone else does want to come along, we can always meet up afterwards.

Judith

-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 -  Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc.  (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org )
Redemption '01  23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:37:13 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] Travis model now available
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We now have a model available of Travis 2 to join the existing models of Avon
and Blake.  He's standing in a classic Travis pose, feet slightly apart
and arms folded.  There's a photo going up on the web site (rather low
resolution I'm afraid, but it gives an idea).

Kelvin's caught up on all the outstanding Avon and Blake orders and the
remaining ones will be posted tomorrow.  We're now actually in the rare
situation of having a couple of painted figures in stock.

Unpainted Travis we can do at once.  Painted figures will be available but
expect a delay of at least two to six weeks.

Judith
-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 -  Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
Thomas, etc.  (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org )
Redemption '01  23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 19:50:31 EST
From: "Jessica Taylor" <morgaine54@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]
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Tavia:
>Without even taking much time to be honest (and at severe risk of being
>assassinated), there are many many British television productions that are
>significantly better than B7. However there is precisely none that I love
>as much. And that is one thing I have never been able to understand: what
>is it about Blake's Seven that inspires my absolute loyalty (I voted for
>it), without necessarily making me think it great television?


I think I know what you mean, the greatest part of watching Blakes 7 
(obviously only IMO) is that it makes one actually care about the characters 
and stories. OK so the aliens were usually stupid and there were sometimes 
fairly obvious holes in the plot but it has a sort of mood (yes, I realise 
that's very vague) that makes those things easy to ignore (except perhapes 
for one or two episodes best forgotten).

Jessica
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Date:   Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:04:59 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7
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Tavia asked:
>what is it about Blake's Seven that inspires my absolute loyalty (I voted
for it), without necessarily making me think it great television?<

I can summarise its attraction for me in two words: the characters.

More precisely:
- Them *not* getting on.
- Avon's ambiguity, meaning you keep expecting him to take Liberator and
run.
- Vila's undependability, meaning you keep expecting him to panic at the
crucial moment.
- The dark edges on Blake's character.
- Strong female characters.


I have to add that I'm one of those fortunate people who never notice bad
special effects and can stand any aliens.  [I must be the only B7 fan with a
weak spot for Brian the spider :-) ]  That said, there are limits - one
thing that really makes me wince is Travis's mummy disguise in Voice from
the Past.

Marian

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 16:14:02 +0100
From: Tavia Chalcraft <tavia@btinternet.com>
To: 'Lysator mailing list' <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7
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Marian wrote:
>Tavia asked:
>>what is it about Blake's Seven that inspires my absolute loyalty?

>I can summarise its attraction for me in two words: the characters.

>More precisely:
>- Them *not* getting on.
>- Avon's ambiguity, meaning you keep expecting him to take Liberator and
>run.
>- Vila's undependability, meaning you keep expecting him to panic at the
>crucial moment.
>- The dark edges on Blake's character.
>- Strong female characters.

I agree with all of the above, except the last, but would add:

--And most importantly, a tragic ending.

As we've discussed almost ad nauseam on The Other List of late, I think 
that, without 'Blake', my love of Blake's Seven would have been as passing 
as my love of numerous other series I saw in childhood.

Tavia

--When the fire and the rose are one

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:27 +0100
From: nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net
To: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>,
	"b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]
Message-Id: <20000916172730.59E92536D8@latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net>

   >> Ohhh!  "Edge of Darkness"...now THAT was a pretty damn impressive show.

Agreed. It's one of my all-time favourites, although not one for watching on a rainy day after you've just lost your job and the budgie's died. Bob Peck is fantastic, and Joe Don Baker demonstrates that he is good for something besides James Bond and Bonanza.

In other news, I'd add "Gangsters" and not just cos it's got Maurice Colbourne in it. It was the first postmodern drama on television, and brought a lot of really good Asian actors to prominence (Saeed Jeffrey, anyone?). Forget "Lock Stock," let's bring back the classics...
 
   >> ummmm now how to bring some B7 content into this post....Ah!  Bleak
   >outlooks
   >> and grey quaries abound in EoD and B7  (yes lame I know)

Don't forget Brian Croucher was in EoD, and so was David Jackson.

Fiona
http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html

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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:23:22 +0100
From: "DragonFly" <dragonfly@pond65.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Midsummer Nights Dream - Review
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Well at Joyce's request here a review for the Midsummer Night's Dream that
is currently playing at the Nottingham Play House.Fri 8 September  -
Saturday 21 October 2000.

I was very much over the moon when I learnt that my husband had booked
tickets to take me to see this show and even though we have seen many live
shows from pantos to Phantom of the Opera in London Westend this was one of
the best. The set is wonderful; the cast are excellent and the staff at the
Nottingham Play House were lovely.

The experience was enchanting, I have to say that all the cast could very
well have been in shows in Londons westend and for the 8 pounds a ticket it
is the best buy anyone could spend 8 pounds on.

Veronica Leer who plays Puck carries the play along, with many laughs and
chuckles, also giving a very lively show was Martin Herdman who plays
Bottom. - I know that you really want to hear all about Gareth Thomas but
what can I say - a spectacular performance - if you are half dead drag the
other half to go see it you won't be disappointed. The stage special effects
are great. I really don't want to give anything away but it left me coming
home on the train wishing I was heading back in the other direction to see
the evening showing.

After the show I was lucky enough to have the chance to meet THE Gareth
Thomas and he is just as I imagined him to be. Though he seemed very
surprised to see me approaching him, from the loud and big performance he
had just given he seemed humble and a lovely kind man, he cam out wearing a
green jacket and a flat cap. I asked him if he would mind to sign my video
sleeve for The Way Back/Spacefall he gave me a big smile and said "I sure
you wasn't even born when these were on" (for those of you that don't know I
am 24 - He does know how to flatter a lady) I explained that I have been a
fan since I was 5 and he seemed to feel for me when I told him that I cried
over the last episode at such a young age. I felt ever word when I was
speaking to him for a while about the excellent performance that everone had
just given and that after seeing Phantom of the Opera I actually felt that
the show I had just seen had a much stronger cast, he told be that it was
very hard work doing it twice a day. My husband chipped in asking if he
could take a photo of me with him, which he took less than a moment to
agree - as he took me by surprise and put his arm around me giving me a hug
and saying that the pleasure would be all his (as he said this I blushed and
looked at him just as Steve took the photo) - so I have do idea what the
photo will come out like. We then wished each other well and he left telling
us he was going to go and find somewhere to get a cup of tea! - What a
lovely guy - He is just the chap I wish I had as a neighborough!



And I have to say I will be going back to see Dear Brutus

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:53:23 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]
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Neil mentioned:
>Cathy Come Home and Edge of Darkness.

Cathy Come Home ends even more disastrously than Blake's 7, I suppose,
given that there weren't actually guns involved.

But its place in TV history is assured, B7's depends on us.

Re Una's comments:

I did like Our Friends in the North.  Just because you didn't get to be a=
n
extra...  Though I'm probably a sucker for anything with "north" in the
title.  Not to mention Chris Eccleston, Daniel Craig and, above all, TREV=
OR
COOPER in the cast.

And am I the only person in the world who thinks Dennis Potter had the mo=
st
beautiful speaking voice ever heard on British television?

Harriet

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:04:36 -0500
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Frame captures on CD-ROM
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It's ready! You can now get all the Blake's 7 images currently on my frame 
capture website -- that's a total of 2411 images from 13 episodes -- on 
CD-ROM. If you are interested, please email me off-list for prices and 
ordering information.

Also, please note that by the end of this year I will be drastically 
reducing the number of images kept online at any given time. You can find 
the details on my site (see the "Important Notice" on the main page or any 
of the show index pages). For those who want immediate access to all the 
images, the CD will be the best option.

	- Lisa
--
_____________________________________________________________
  Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@raytheon.com
  Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
  From Eroica With Love: http://eroicafans.org/

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:29:40 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Aronar origins
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From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
> One Lyst member (I've forgotten who, raise your hand) gave us the most
> elegant answer as part of her complex background for a
> Web-Sarcophogas-DotG-Terminal continuity solver. An extremely advanced
> race or which both the Sarcophagus alien and the Auronar 'gods' were
> members created intelligent menials (bipeds on the same physical plan as
> themselves) to work for them. This allows humans and all humanoid aliens
> to share physical attributes and many cultural ones without all
> originating on the same planet.

But that could only work if the Extremely Advanced Race (TM) were themselves
of Earth origin.  Were, in fact, humans themselves.  We humans were not
created, at least not by highly advanced aliens*.  We evolved, from a
primate line unique to this planet.  The EAR Theory doesn't solve the
problem of humanoids on other planets.  And if they fancied ancient humans
as a blueprint for their menials, why not just nick a few originals and
transplant them?

Sorry, but the theory just doesn't hold water.  And it reeks of
anthropocentic supremacism.  Still, where would be SF be without its
jackboots?

Neil

*I will concede the possibility that we might have been created by God, but
only to avoid giving wanton offence.

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:40:29 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]
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From: Una McCormack <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
> Am I the only person in the world who thinks Dennis Potter was a vastly
> over-rated writer whose bloated epics verge on being total shit?

Probably not, but you bloody well ought to be.

He had some kind words to say about B7, apparently, though I don't know
exactly what they were.

> However, 'Monocled Mutineer' was amazing. 'Very Peculiar Practice' also,
> altho' I would go for season 2, because it is so surreal and sinister (and
> repeated once, on UK Gold -  and then we moved house and lost cable
access -
> d'oh!).

I fondly remember Bob Buzzard's misadventures in the arms trade ("Not arms,
you stupid woman.  *Arms*.  For the medical students in Bogota..."), though
I taped the 2nd series and then stupidly went over them because I was sure
it would be repeated.  Silly Neil.

Certain references in the 1st series especially cut pretty close to my
experiences at Stirling University, right down to the names of people I was
hanging out with.  Intriguing.

Neil

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:45:19 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]
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From: <nyder@moore.britishlibrary.net>
> In other news, I'd add "Gangsters" and not just cos it's got Maurice
Colbourne in it. It was the first postmodern drama on television, and
brought a lot of really good Asian actors to prominence (Saeed Jeffrey,
anyone?). Forget "Lock Stock," let's bring back the classics...

Good grief yes, I'd forgotten Gangsters.  That was brilliant, especially the
final ep.  I felt especially sorry for the Indian guy who finally got to
visit the England he'd adored from afar for years, only to get mugged by a
gang of skinheads.  Not sure I'd have liked to have seen B7 made in that
comic strip style, though (ob ref).

Neil

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:04:36 +0100
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] I love 1978
Message-ID: <1dCqukCkB+w5Ewbq@jajones.demon.co.uk>

All right, how many of the UK 30 and 40 somethings spent the last hour
reliving their youth?
-- 
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
        The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.

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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:36:47 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] I love 1978
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Julia:

> All right, how many of the UK 30 and 40 somethings spent the last hour
> reliving their youth?

Ahem, don't forget the twenty-somethings!


Una

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