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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 290
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Fabulous Films "to release B7 [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
[B7L] Cult TV [ Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com ]
Re: [B7L] Gallows humour [ Natasa Tucev <tucev@tesla.rcub.bg.a ]
[B7L] [B7_Avon] Some more random tho [ "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com ]
[B7L] Sleer & Servalan [ "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com ]
Re: [B7L] DVD [ Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@comp ]
Re: [B7L] Christmas presents [ Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@comp ]
Re: [B7L] DVD [ Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.s ]
Re: [B7L] Christmas presents [ Alison Page <alison_page@becta.org. ]
Re: [B7L] DVD [ "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl> ]
Re: [B7L] Sleer & Servalan [ "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl> ]
Re: [B7L] Christmas presents [ Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana. ]
Re: [B7L] Christmas presents [ "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.co ]
Re: [B7L] Christmas presents [ Mistral <mistral@centurytel.net> ]
Re: [B7L] Fantasy [ "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.co ]
Re: [B7L] [B7_Avon] Some more random [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
[B7L] Cambridge theatre trip [ Nicola Collie <nicola@dunedinite.fr ]
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:29:50 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] Fabulous Films "to release B7 on DVD"! (fwd)
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I've had this from two people today (thanks Rob W and Rob H)
According to reliable site DVD Debate.com - Fabulous Films have confirmed to
them that they intend releasing B7 on DVD in the second quarter of 2001.
Hopefully this link should take you to the relevant
site:http://www.dvddebate.com/index.php3.
Judith
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:25:21 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
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Cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>
Subject: [B7L] Cult TV
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>From Cult TV:
STEPHEN W PARSONS - Writer and Producer of "Rough Magik" a new pilot for a
proposed TV series starring Blake's Seven actor Paul Darrow. Stephen will be at
the Festival to talk about this new fantasy series and the pilot will be given
it's first ever public screening during the weekend exclusively for Cult TV
attendees.
Also Hattie Hayridge (Holly)is now on the guest list.
Judith
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:08:43 +0200
From: Natasa Tucev <tucev@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.yu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Gallows humour
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Dana wrote:
>
>Natasa cited:
>> JENNA: What do you think they'll do to us?
>> BLAKE: Something unfriendly.
>from SpaceFall--I think it's in the same episode where
>Blake suggests that Jenna experiment with the instruments;
>she asks what'll happen if she finds the Auto-Destruct (as she
>presumably did in earnest, later on) and Blake says he'll
>never speak to her again.
>
(It's in Cygnus Alpha I think.) Oh, yes... It never occured to me. If you
view this as a cross-reference to the events reported in 'Blake', it's
really morbid. She really hits the self-destruct and he really doesn't speak
to her again.
BTW, there is another B-J exchange which just doesn't make sense to me. It's
from Duel:
JENNA: That's one way to become a hunted man. Trust the powerful.
BLAKE: True. What's your excuse?
JENNA: Oh, I wasn't careful enough.
Wouldn't it make more sense if she said, 'Oppose the powerful?' She opposed
the Terra Nostra by refusing to smuggle drugs for them, and Blake opposed
the Federation.
Natasa
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:38:22 GMT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] [B7_Avon] Some more random thoughts about Rescue
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Dorian is icky, and his rolling-eyes bit at the end cringe-worthy.
I agree with Marian about My Darling's costume - he does from his best
leather-n-studs look to his worst. Dorian may have impeccable taste in wine
and women, but defin-ITE-ly not in haute couture (pity we didn’t get to see
his private rooms - I have a feeling the bedroom would have been
pseudo-kitsch-decadence on a Super-*Not*-Economy-Size scale. Vila might have
liked it ...)
<Apart from these - to me - essential requirements for a good episode
[Avon's looks and costume] :-) there's him going back for Tarrant, and
coming up with a selfish reason for doing so which brings back shades of the
Avon/Blake interaction.>
What interests me is the script emphasis on the group belonging together -
'bonded' through adversity - but at the same time fractured through the same
adversity (Tarrant *twice* mentions his distrust of Avon at this point, not
surprising after the way Avon treated him in Terminal, and Dayna doesn’t
really defend Avon the second time. In the next episode, Power, Avon
reciprocates the feeling. What happened on Terminal *hurt*.) The
relationships are beginning to get more interesting again (for me) after the
muffled 3rd season ...
<Cally gets a poor send off. Tarrant and Dayna don't seem to be mourning
her at all.>
Perhaps they're trying to keep each others' spirits up? After all, they’re
all in constant danger - sitting down and having a good brooding session
might feel good, but ain't going to help the situation, thye need to keep
their emotions - whatever they are - on hold. The chirpy joking on the
stairwell is a bit much, but then they're both very young to be as well
acquainted with violent death as they are ...
<[Could that be why she's calling for Blake, knowing he's the only one who
won't balk at mourning her openly? :-)]>
Or *she's* in the middle of a good brooding session over *his* death, and
thinking about him when the place goes up ....
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:39:44 GMT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Sleer & Servalan
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<What always baffles me about Servalan is that she can get away with all
those secret missions. Surely a Supreme Commander or President has to keep
in touch with the government at all times?>
This is Servalan. She's probably killed just about everyone who she thinks
might be a threat to her power (remember Tiberius Caesar, who left Rome
entirely and went to live on Capri) and left everyone else in a state of
mistrust and terror. Of course, Servalan miscalculates just how much she can
leave her empire and go indulge her private obsessions (she's actually not
in power for very long *at all* when you think about it - a very very minor
President, a footnote in the history books, methinks) and does get booted
out.
<What if she used her dealings with the clone masters to acquire not only
two fake Blakes but also a copy of herself. Then she could have let her
clone take her place while she was away.>
Nice idea, but a Supreme Clone is IMHO the *last* person in the universe
Servalan would trust for ten minutes, let alone months on end :-) After
all, she saw just exactly how long they were able to control the Blake clone
before it started running amuck (oh, several hours, maybe??). A Servalan
clone might too easily turn out just as treacherous, megalomaniac and
devious as the real thing, and prefer to *be* the only real thing ...
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:21:13 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] DVD
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Julia quoted:
>After a lengthy chat with the UK distributors
> we can exclusively reveal that Fabulous Films
> have some very definite plans for a region 2 =
>DVD release of the classic 80's sci-fi series =
>Blakes 7. The bad news is that they're looking
> at a 2nd quarter 2001 release date at present so don't
>start looking on shelves until about Easter time.
Ah, so that gives me time to get organised to buy a DVD player.
Do you think they'll use the same photos, or is there any point our sendi=
ng
Fab our own list of more sensible ones?
Harriet
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:21:26 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents
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What are these gift certificates people keep mentioning?
Marian wrote:
>Considering the fact that the habit is worn by
>a man, it's all too conceivable its original function
> has been long forgotten
Now, what were those blokes in nuns' habits who used to turn out at all t=
he
London demos called? Sisters of something or other. Canonised Derek
Jarman. It would be nice if they still survived somewhere in the future
(and still had a Jarman cult).
Harriet
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Date: 17 Oct 2000 15:47:39 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] DVD
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>>>>> "Harriet" == Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes:
> Do you think they'll use the same photos, or is there any point our sending
> Fab our own list of more sensible ones?
Wouldn't it be more fun to send them the list of senseless ones?
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:03:52 +0100
From: Alison Page <alison_page@becta.org.uk>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents
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Harriet said -
>>Now, what were those blokes in nuns' habits who used to turn out at all
the London demos called? Sisters of something or other.
'The Sisters of perpetual indulgence' IIRC
Alison
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:03:29 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] DVD
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To Harriet's suggestion:
>> Do you think they'll use the same photos, or is there any point our
sending Fab our own list of more sensible ones?<<
Calle replied:
>Wouldn't it be more fun to send them the list of senseless ones?<
Dont! They might take it seriously :-)
Marian
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:56:02 +0200
From: "Marian de Haan" <maya@multiweb.nl>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Sleer & Servalan
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To my:
><What always baffles me about Servalan is that she can get away with all
those secret missions. Surely a Supreme Commander or President has to keep
in touch with the government at all times?><
Sally replied:
>This is Servalan. She's probably killed just about everyone who she thinks
might be a threat to her power (remember Tiberius Caesar, who left Rome
entirely and went to live on Capri) and left everyone else in a state of
mistrust and terror. Of course, Servalan miscalculates just how much she can
leave her empire and go indulge her private obsessions (she's actually not
in power for very long *at all* when you think about it - a very very minor
President, a footnote in the history books, methinks) and does get booted
out.<
The atrocities she commits in that brief time may give her a more prominent
place in the history books. After all, she commits genocide on a scale
Hitler could only dream of.
><What if she used her dealings with the clone masters to acquire not only
two fake Blakes but also a copy of herself. Then she could have let her
clone take her place while she was away.><
>Nice idea, but a Supreme Clone is IMHO the *last* person in the universe
Servalan would trust for ten minutes, let alone months on end :-) After
all, she saw just exactly how long they were able to control the Blake clone
before it started running amuck (oh, several hours, maybe??). A Servalan
clone might too easily turn out just as treacherous, megalomaniac and
devious as the real thing, and prefer to *be* the only real thing ...<
Yet she seems confident she'll be able to control the 12 (?) clones we see
in Children of Auron. Imagine they had survived - the infighting would
never stop!
Raja: I'm going to be president.
Travisa: No, I'll be president!
Avona: Mother's going to appoint me.
Carnella: No, she's promised it to me!
Tarranta: Never! I'm here favourite.
Donna: She knows that you put that frog in her bed.
Tarranta: That wasn't me, that was Jarrierra...
Someone write the story, please.
Marian
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:06:26 +1100
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents
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On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:21:26AM -0400, Harriet Monkhouse wrote:
> What are these gift certificates people keep mentioning?
Gift vouchers. You go to a particular store, say, a book store or a
department store, and you pay then money, and they give you a piece of
paper, and you give the piece of paper as your present, and the givee
goes to the store, and picks out something to the value of the money
you originally gave the store, gives the piece of paper to the store,
and leaves with the item. All clear now?
Some stores have fixed amounts for their gift certificates ($10, $20,
$50) while others have a blank spot where they write in the amount.
Kathryn Andersen
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:25:48 EST
From: "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents
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>From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
>Now, what were those blokes in nuns' habits who used to turn out at all the
>London demos called? Sisters of something or other.
As Alison said, The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. Sound like the sort of
people who'd have a whale of a time at one of Krantor's soirees. He'd
probably be amused by the names they adopt. Wish I could remember an
example.
Regards
Joanne
(who will not mention the somewhat dubious idea that popped into her head of
Jarriere in a nun's habit - oh.)
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:01:06 -0700
From: Mistral <mistral@centurytel.net>
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Joanne wrote:
> (who will not mention the somewhat dubious idea that popped into her head of
> Jarriere in a nun's habit - oh.)
In that case I've no idea why it just occurred to me that, as everyone
else was obviously in costume - including Servalan with her red dress
and mask - maybe Jarriere was simply being more subtle and wearing his
'clueless' costume?
Mistral
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:51:44 EST
From: "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Fantasy
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I was deciding what to delete from a folder when I reread this:
>From: Alison Page <alison_page@becta.org.uk>
>and rich women with Aga's taking their labradors for a walk
Argh! I plead a sore upper limb as my only defence, but that is a hell of a
multipurpose stove. Alison, please try to forgive me...
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:01:07 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] [B7_Avon] Some more random thoughts about Rescue
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:38:22 GMT "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
writes:
> Dorian is icky, and his rolling-eyes bit at the end cringe-worthy.
>
> I agree with Marian about My Darling's costume - he does from his
> best
> leather-n-studs look to his worst. Dorian may have impeccable taste
> in wine
> and women, but defin-ITE-ly not in haute couture
I always thought there was a deliberate, disturbing message when Dorian
changed into an outfit like Avon's. Red is more associated with blood
(which Dorian had enough of on his hands) and lusts (which Dorian also
admitted to having some extremely nonsocially redeeming experience in).
Black can represent death, inner darkness, and reason (it can represent
other things, but these seem to be Avon pertinent elements). But their
similiarities seem to be getting lined up. Dorian is extremely
intelligent and the selfish survivor out for himself Avon claims to be.
He's quickly established as gifted with computers (creating Slave, fixing
Orac, past experience with Ensor) and is hard a t work on a teleport
system. Then there's the way Dorian enjoys playing games with Avon,
giving him the puzzle pieces and watching him put them together. What's
also interesting is Avon's basic understanding of Dorian, the way he
doesn't trust him and refuses (unlike his usualy style) to get drawn into
Dorian's brain games. His attitude seems to be, 'I already know
everything about you I need to.'
True, he's right, but it also suggests something else, that Avon
understands Dorian because of underlying similarities.
JMHO - well, not even that, just my humble speculation, but maybe this
was an attempt to foreshadow Avon's decline and growing ruthlessness over
S4. Any thoughts?
Ellynne
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:36:06 +0100
From: Nicola Collie <nicola@dunedinite.free-online.co.uk>
To: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>,
Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Cambridge theatre trip
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Calling all fen in Cambridge and nearby - would you like to see Stephen
Pacey's play, "A Family Affair" at the Cambridge Arts Theatre? A couple of
us are planning to go on Weds 25 Oct; the performance that evening is
followed by a post-show talk by some (undefined) members of the cast.
There's some limited guff about the play here:
http://www.cambridgeartstheatre.com/pages/sp-family.html. Box office phone
number is 01223 503 333
If you want to go with us, email me at this address as soon as poss. I'm
happy to book tickets for others (prices 5 pounds to 17 pounds), or we can
just plan to meet up on the night.
Nicola
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