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blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 49
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Re: space Fall
[B7L] My apologies to everyone
[B7L] Re: Aftermath Aficionados Anonymous
Re: [B7L] Re: Aftermath Aficionados Anonymous
Re: [B7L] Space Fall
[B7L] Guada Prime and Servalan
Re: [B7L] Servalan or not Servalan?
[B7L] Re: Spacefall
Re: [B7L] Q-study results: a brief addendum
[B7L] The New Blake's 7 Movie
Re: [B7L] Re: Space Fall
Re: [B7L] Re: Beautiful Suffering
Re: [B7L] Re: space Fall
Re: [B7L] Servalan or Not Servalan?
Re: [B7L] Re: Spacefall
[B7L] New Mailing List
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:50:02 +0000
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: space Fall
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Julia Horner wrote: "Knowing my nearest and dearest would pour scorn on
me for
watching it on TV when I have the full set of videos, I had to
pretend that I was outside cleaning the car."
I have no explanation of this, I have the full set of videos - twice cos
I've got the Fab Films release as well - yet I have watched both
episodes so far broadcast. I could, as I have, justify it by saying I
want to hear what the commentators say before and afterwards, but I
know, when it comes down to it, that's not the whole truth. Yes, I want
to hear whart they say, but I have this unexplainable compulsion to
watch them being broadcast by the BBC.
As an aside to this, I know there is justifyable disgruntalment at the
lack of publicity the beeb has given to the repeats, but I am finding a
large number of people seem to have spotted it anyway, which makes it
more of a pity that the Beeb are already messing around with it by
missing next week. I do hope this is not a pattern for things to come
and that we will after next week get an uninterrupted run of all the
episodes.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson
"In my world, there are people in chains and you can ride them like
ponies"
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:09:38 -0500
From: Michael Bailey <michaelabailey@netzero.net>
To: "Blake's 7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] My apologies to everyone
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Hi.
I want to apologize to everyone for putting an attachment on the list. I
thought that the attachments wouldn't be added to the list but just to
the other address I was writing to. I'm sorry for any inconvenience... I
didn't understand the problems that would occur.
Michael
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:18:17 -0800
From: Susie Wright <piscescat@home.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Aftermath Aficionados Anonymous
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Hi Una,
I'm an "Aftermath" Aficionado and I've been one for over 10 years! (applause from
fellow confessors...) Mostly for severe drooling reasons, definitely not for the
stiff acting by the guest actors and the goofy weapons. Don't you just love that
Paul and Jackie would love to do an R-rated version of B7.... as they giggle
sinisterly on the interview tapes...
All this talk of "Space Fall" makes me long to see it again. I remember really
liking Raiker and being disappointed he wasn't going to be part of the series.
Those early episodes really kept you guessing as to what was going to happen next
and how the show would settle into its regular cast.
Has "The Strangerers" premiered yet?
> From Sally's email:
>
> Actually, I have come to the happy decision that Harriet was right in she was cruising some not-too-distant part of the galaxy, tuned in to the
> news, screamed 'Oh sh...' and flew straight to Gauda Prime at standard by
> maximum>
>
>
> …And crashed into something (a stray asteroid, an even strayer ship – I
> know, a DSV no one knew about!) on the way, so she is dead too (well, you
> said *everyone*. And Orac had that nice little self-destruct program
> Avon installed for Moments Like These, which makes the whole thing nice and
> neat.
>
I like this idea...
As for lost episodes... that's where fan fiction come to the rescue!
--Susie
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Hi Una,
<p>I'm an "Aftermath" Aficionado and I've been one for over 10 years!
(applause from fellow confessors...) Mostly for severe drooling reasons,
definitely not for the stiff acting by the guest actors and the goofy weapons.
Don't you just love that Paul and Jackie would love to do an R-rated version
of B7.... as they giggle sinisterly on the interview tapes...
<p>All this talk of "Space Fall" makes me long to see it again. I
remember really liking Raiker and being disappointed he wasn't going to
be part of the series. Those early episodes really kept you guessing
as to what was going to happen next and how the show would settle into
its regular cast.
<p>Has "The Strangerers" premiered yet?
<br>
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<pre>From Sally's email:</pre>
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<pre>Actually, I have come to the happy decision that Harriet was right in she was cruising some not-too-distant part of the galaxy, tuned in to the
news, screamed 'Oh sh...' and flew straight to Gauda Prime at standard by
maximum>
…And crashed into something (a stray asteroid, an even strayer ship – I
know, a DSV no one knew about!) on the way, so she is dead too (well, you
said *everyone*. And Orac had that nice little self-destruct program
Avon installed for Moments Like These, which makes the whole thing nice and
neat.</pre>
</blockquote>
I like this idea...
<p>As for lost episodes... that's where fan fiction come to the rescue!
<p>--Susie</html>
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:35:52 -0000
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Aftermath Aficionados Anonymous
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Susie asked:
> Has "The Strangerers" premiered yet?
It has indeed. I thought it was rather funny. I don't know how well it'll
stand up across a series, but this episode made me laugh out loud quite a
bit.
Una
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 01:16:29 -0000
From: "S" <sarah@mcfarland54.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Space Fall
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>> Ok, hands up, how many of the Brits were getting an extra kick out of
>> knowing they were watching it at the same time as everyone else?
I turned down a morning becomming afternoon becomming evening out with
friends to get home in time to see it. I got some interesting reactions from
my friends Trying to explain to a Canadian that I couldn't go to the cinema
because of a 1970s TV programme was very stressful. Still, I don't need
access to real life when I have Blake's 7 :-)
~Say
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:29:27 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Guada Prime and Servalan
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Well, as I said, I'm of the "Servalan was about to turn up" way of
thinking, BUT I don't think she was *behind* the disasterous
misunderstanding. At best, she figured she'd catch them as they
reunited. More likely, she was after Blake *or* Avon and would have been
surprised to see the whole rebellion was pretty much wrapped up their.
BUT, thanks to her foolishness in thinking she had control of the
situation and longing to gloat, she gets shot by Avon, who's finally too
far gone to care if her guards kill him or not.
The rebels all die, but she dies too. Doesn't solve anything, but ties
up the loose ends nice & tidy.
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:07:28 EST
From: "Erica Hayes" <eejayh@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Servalan or not Servalan?
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Michael said:
>Well I think Servalan really liked Avon. I think she just had to see >him
>before
>he died.
It's a nice thought - and it makes Servalan a very tragic person if it's
true. But I just can't see her being that sentimental. I think that *if*
Servalan/Sleer was there - and I don't think she was, at least not yet - but
*if* she was there, she wouldn't want to let the Scorpio crew, and
especially Avon, get away with dying in such a beautifully humiliating
manner without (a) her being there to watch and (b) them knowing who it was
who engineered their downfall. It's too perfect a gloat for her to miss.
Remember Orbit: "I should like to *see* Avon [when he knows he's about to
die]". Given the opportunity, she wouldn't want to miss it. And the chance
of personal injury to her was slight, given that Avon was surrounded by
armed Fed personnel; even if he did fire, could he have hit her? I doubt it.
But I like to think she wasn't there. The whole crew getting killed in what
was essentially a stupid accident with nothing whatsoever to do with the big
picture is just too delicious an irony to pass up.
Erica
(recently resubscribed after a two-year interregnum spent in the IMO highly
overrated "real world". Makes me smile to see a lot of you still here. No
petty obsession, this B7 thing...)
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:10:45 PST
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Spacefall
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Susie wrote:
<All this talk of "Space Fall" makes me long to see it again…those early
episodes really kept you guessing as to what was going to happen next and
how the show would settle into its regular cast.>
Except that thirty seconds into their first dialogue you *knew* exactly who
were headed for fireworks on a regular basis…and that Nova was doooooommed.
Anyone that chirpy and eager and gormless had to be cannon (okay, foam)
fodder before the fifty minutes were up.
Can't help thinking (very very breifly) how things would have gone if the
palindromic namesakes had got switched – Avon had been moussed to death and
Nova had made it onto the Liberator. Probably more peaceful, but Blake would
have found life so much *duller* with just Space Command, the Federation and
half the galaxy to fight with…
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:27:32 +0000 (GMT)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Q-study results: a brief addendum
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Una McCormack wrote:
> Iain/me:
>
> > Quantitative analysis is so much more satisfying than intuition, isn't it?
> > "I'm right, because I've done lots of sums and you haven't! So there!
> > Bwahahahaha!"
>
> Alternatively, '*You* did all those sums to reach a conclusion which *I*
> already knew! Bwaha! Bwahahahaha!'
>
Aargh! Outmaneuvered again!
I'm starting to feel like Bercol.
Iain
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:55:02 -0500
From: Michael Bailey <michaelabailey@netzero.net>
To: "Blake's 7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] The New Blake's 7 Movie
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Hi,
Does anyone know any news about the proposed Blake's 7 movie for the
year 2000?
Michael
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:07:05 -0000
From: "Jonathan Coupe" <jonathan@meanwhile.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Space Fall
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----- Original Message -----
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:49 AM
Subject: [B7L] Re: Space Fall
> Alison wrote:
> >This is how I privately see it (I know nobody else will agree
> >but here goes) an 'elder race' of awesome power which no
> >longer interacts with the physical world all that much
> >nevertheless has 'our' galaxy as its home.
> ...
> >But now its home is under threat from the Andromedans. So it
> > effortlessly marshals the pawns at its disposal to eliminate that
threat.
>
>
> Good heavens, you mean it was the Vorlons all along? Were they the gods
> who gave the Auronar telepathy?
>
> Harriet
>
You know, I think if we substitute "Vogons" for "Vorlons" here we might
really be on to something...
Jonathan
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:50:00 +0000 (GMT)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Beautiful Suffering
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Susie Wright wrote:
> And in the next digest... I think I just answered my question.... it relates to Una's
> site and the category of Avon's character development she calls "Beautiful Suffering." I
> read it a while ago and perhaps it's worth another look to refresh my memory.
>
Indeed. Al part of my attempt to establish Una's excellent analysis in the
collective consciousness.
Iain
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:00:04 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: space Fall
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In message <38B07D97.651AF045@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>, Steve Rogerson
<steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> writes
>I have no explanation of this, I have the full set of videos - twice cos
>I've got the Fab Films release as well - yet I have watched both
>episodes so far broadcast. I could, as I have, justify it by saying I
>want to hear what the commentators say before and afterwards, but I
>know, when it comes down to it, that's not the whole truth. Yes, I want
>to hear whart they say, but I have this unexplainable compulsion to
>watch them being broadcast by the BBC.
That's simple enough - the tapes are VHS, which isn't as good as
broadcast quality, and they've been cut in places. That's why I've
wanted to see them again on broadcast for years.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:14:52 -0700
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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> Louise Rutter wrote:
>
I don't believe Servalan
> would be
> > stupid enough to walk into the room before Avon was disarmed - not
> when all
> > his friends had just been shot, and not when he had just shot
> Blake.
Louise, Louise, Louise, what _are_ we going to do with you? There may be
a lot of arguments for why a B7 character would or would not do something
but knowing it's suicidally stupid is not one of them.
Ellynne
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:24:46 -0000
From: "Andrew Ellis" <Andrew.D.Ellis@btinternet.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Spacefall
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Sally said some good stuff, which included.....
the palindromic namesakes ....Avon ....and Nova
Excellent. I never noticed it. Thanks
Andrew
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:22:50 -0500
From: Michael Bailey <michaelabailey@netzero.net>
To: "Blake's 7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] New Mailing List
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Hi everyone!
I found this new awesome mailing list. It's a onelist.com For more
information see:
http://www.onelist.com/list/blakes-7
It's still a smaller group but I think it will grow very quickly! Come
and join. The address for subscribing is on the web page above.
Michael
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