From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #52 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume00/52 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: FW: [B7L] shots fired Re: [B7L] Palindromes Re: [B7L] New Mailing List Re: [B7L] Palindromes Re: [B7L] New Mailing List [B7L] Re: Shots Fired Re: [B7L] Palindromes Re: [B7L] shots fired Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Re: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Re: FW: [B7L] shots fired Re: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Re: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Re: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:56:03 +1100 From: Andrew Williams <AWilliams@daikin.com.au> To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: FW: [B7L] shots fired Message-ID: <4103E830BB67D211877400A0247B635E15ED32@dialup49.actonline.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Pat P said: >OK, the first shot was a bit higher in pitch than the subsequent volley. >But only the single 'spacey ray gun' sounding shot in the middle sounded >vastly different to me. >But who [or what] fired that first shot? >And whose weapon lobbed that odd ray gun blast? There is an interview with Mary Ridge (in one of the B7 magazines, I believe) where she explains who is firing each of the gunshots over the credits. I could dig it up if you like. Regards, Andrew. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:02:05 -0000 From: "Andrew Ellis" <Andrew.D.Ellis@btinternet.com> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Palindromes Message-ID: <003b01bf7f13$6b2116a0$b2b001d5@leanet.futures.bt.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Me.... >> Sally said some good stuff, which included..... >> the palindromic namesakes ....Avon ....and Nova >> Excellent. I never noticed it. Thanks >> Andrew Helen... >You'd never noticed? One of the first things I realized about Avon was >that it was a palindrome of nova. ......, which makes me think it was >*very* deliberate. OK, OK so I'm mortal (unlike Avon ?). >And if Avon had died instead of Nova, the series would have been very >short. Sometimes you needed nasty, suspicious Avon to keep them all from >getting killed. I quite agree, I mean without Avon BETRAYING the crew in Hostage <ducks>, Travis would be dead, the Andomedans would have waited until after Blake had destroyed Star One and then the Federation for them , <peeps back up again>, and human kind would all be gone. QED, you need nasty suspicious people for the survival of the species. <changes mind and stays down> Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:37:51 -0500 From: Meredith Dixon <dixonm@pobox.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] New Mailing List Message-ID: <qlcbbsgued101l6svr1igqcj109n99q4q6@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:47:12 +1100, Kathryn wrote: >Judging by the archives of that list, Michael was the one who actually >started it. On the 21st of February, no less. So he's definitely the >one to answer that question. The B7 mailing list I know of (but do not belong to) on Onelist has been around since the summer of 1998 and was started by someone named Kristin. I assumed, without looking too closely at the listname, that was the one Michael meant. I'm glad you actually took time to check his list's archives on Onelist. -- Meredith Dixon <dixonm@pobox.com> Check out *Raven Days*, for victims and survivors of bullying. And for those who want to help. http://www.pobox.com/~dixonm/raven.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:07:50 EST From: Prmolloy@aol.com To: Andrew.D.Ellis@btinternet.com CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Palindromes Message-ID: <14.12ffc61.25e713c6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yahoo - Avon saves the world. Never realized Andrew was such an Avon fan! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:18:20 PST From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] New Mailing List Message-ID: <20000225041820.41569.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed After Pat asked: < Why another list? 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(I'm being a bit silly.... I was surrounded by 4 year olds today at my daughter's preschool.... run away run away run away) Susie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 19:09:58 -0000 From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net> To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Palindromes Message-ID: <000d01bf7f60$95ca14e0$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > the palindromic namesakes ....Avon ....and Nova > > > > Excellent. I never noticed it. Thanks > > > > Andrew > You'd never noticed? One of the first things I realized about Avon was > that it was a palindrome of nova. The Kerr Avon Tribute Page http://homepages.tesco.net/~N.Faulkner/blakes7/avontrib.htm ) will tell you that since 'Nova' is 'Avon' spelt backwards, and Nova died at the beginning, we can be sure that Avon didn't die at the end. Surely it's not a true palindrome, since proper ones read the same backwards and forwards? Neil "...Lennon got in the habit of issuing vague orders for the creation of evocative sounds (he once asked Martin to make a song sound like an orange)." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:18:02 -0000 From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net> To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] shots fired Message-ID: <000f01bf7f60$9796e5a0$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat P wrote: > OK, the first shot was a bit higher in pitch than the subsequent volley. > But only the single 'spacey ray gun' sounding shot in the middle sounded > vastly different to me. > But who [or what] fired that first shot? > And whose weapon lobbed that odd ray gun blast? IIRC, some of the troopers standing around Avon at the end were not armed with standard Federation sidearms. Not that all Federation sidearms sounded alike anyway. Neil "...Lennon got in the habit of issuing vague orders for the creation of evocative sounds (he once asked Martin to make a song sound like an orange)." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 19:13:23 -0000 From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net> To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Message-ID: <000e01bf7f60$96bcb240$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it just me, or is there wider cause for concern about anyone who could regard any form of suffering as 'beautiful'? :) Neil "...Lennon got in the habit of issuing vague orders for the creation of evocative sounds (he once asked Martin to make a song sound like an orange)." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:19:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk> To: b7 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.96.1000225111838.27868A-100000@bsauasc> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Neil Faulkner wrote: > Is it just me, or is there wider cause for concern about anyone who could > regard any form of suffering as 'beautiful'? You are not alone, Neil. I have, however, refrained from enquiring too closely, as I am just an innocent little Catholic boy and the answers would make me go all pink. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:24:42 EST From: KKrause658@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: FW: [B7L] shots fired Message-ID: <24.1a73a9a.25e7eaaa@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat P said: >OK, the first shot was a bit higher in pitch than the subsequent volley. >But only the single 'spacey ray gun' sounding shot in the middle sounded >vastly different to me. >But who [or what] fired that first shot? >And whose weapon lobbed that odd ray gun blast? <There is an interview with Mary Ridge (in one of the B7 magazines, I believe) where she explains who is firing each of the gunshots over the credits. I could dig it up if you like. Regards, Andrew.> I, for one, would love to see it if you could find it. Karen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:27:22 EST From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Message-ID: <b7.103369e.25e7f95a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil's question is a good one. Why do we enjoy watching Avon suffer? Perhaps because it makes him look nice and vulnerable?!! Gail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:26:51 EST From: Prmolloy@aol.com To: VulcanXYZ@aol.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Message-ID: <c5.239e0d1.25e8317b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's an excellent point. But it is not just watching our hero suffer; much of the fanfic includes a plethora of "beautiful suffering," particularly Avon. Or maybe it's just the fanfic that I like to read ... Trish ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:00:22 -0000 From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net> To: "b7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: Re [B7L]: 'Beautiful' suffering? Message-ID: <000601bf7fef$ab2fa180$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trish wrote > That's an excellent point. But it is not just watching our hero suffer; much > of the fanfic includes a plethora of "beautiful suffering," particularly Avon. > > Or maybe it's just the fanfic that I like to read ... Linking up with Gail's point, it occurs to me that there are a fair few female fanfic writers who like to take their favourite male character and beat him to pulp to show how vulnerable he can be. As opposed to those male fanfic writes who like to take their favourite female character and beat her to pulp to show how tough she can be. Somehow I can't help thinking that we're not going to meet up round the back... Neil "I am not a man, I am a free number." -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #52 *************************************