From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #153 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/153 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 153 Today's Topics: [B7L] New Sound Files RE: [B7L]Lost In Space [B7L] Lost in Space Re: [B7L] Warlord [B7L] Invasion Earth Re: [B7L] Invasion Earth Re: [B7L] Invasion Earth [B7L] Re: Warlord ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 18:21:10 -0400 From: BugEyes To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] New Sound Files Message-ID: <35708655.38EF187B@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just uploaded more new sound files for Series B and some sound effects. Hope they are what everyone wanted. I'll be making more for Series C and D hopefully soon. Thanks. HM Melton B7 Sounds http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/1874/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 04:05:29 -0500 From: captjohns@iw.edwpub.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: RE: [B7L]Lost In Space Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date forwarded: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:09:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: Lysator List Subject: RE: [B7L]Lost In Space Date sent: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:07:42 +-200 Forwarded by: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Proctor [SMTP:Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 11:09 PM > To: Lysator List > Subject: Re: [B7L]Lost In Space > > On Wed 27 May, Julie Horner wrote: > > Does anybody know for sure which day the B7 Lost in Space > > will be going out? > > I believe it will be the last in the series. Thus 12 June is the most likely > date. I make the probable order to be Star Trek this week, X-files next week, > then Blake's 7. > > [Jacqueline Thijsen] Star Trek was last week, so there must be something else this week or B7 will be earlier > Could someone please tell me what the devil your talking about? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 07:21:41 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" , Space City Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space Message-ID: <199805310722_MC2-3EB2-43C8@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This week's Observer TV Guide thinks that the X-Files are on Friday, June 5. So that does suggest Blake's 7 will be on June 12. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:50:32 +0930 From: "Ophelia" To: "B7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Warlord Message-ID: <01bd8c5c$374090a0$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for dropping the Warlord question so abruptly when I raised it, I lost the answers! What Judith says about Zeeona feeling responsible makes sense to me. However, when I watched it I "read" it in a different way. To me, the Avon-Tarrant conversation was about responsibility, but in a different way. I thought that Avon was suggesting that Zeeona felt it was her responsibility to take on any *danger* in repairing the damage her father had done, and that Tarrant would insist on the same in her position. When I think of it like that, her act in removing the glove seems illogical. Surely, as it was in league with Servalan that her father did the damage, it is her responsibility to stay alive and help Servalan's enemies repair the damage she does? Suicide helps no one. Penny wrote: > Was there something in her culture that compelled her to die? That's the only way it would seem logical to me. We know little about Zeeona's culture, except that they have interesting tastes in hair styles. I have another Warlord question - *why* the zombies on the escalator? Why were they being killed? And why drugged first? It may be the equivalent of of handing them soap and a towel and telling them they're going to be de-loused - thus proving that sci fi can only equal the horrors humans are capable of, not exceeding them - but it seems an inefficient use of resources. Why program people two seconds away from being corpses? Especially in comparison to the efficiency the Federation showed in, say, Countdown. XXX Lindley. XXX Ophelia. ophelia@picknowl.com.au http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html "Is there anything you would especially like, mein Fuhrer?" "Yes! Knockwurst sausages! Lots of them!" ('Allo 'Allo, once more proving that the only way to success, fame and power is an affection for knockwurst.) > >Peace, >Penny > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 10:57:51 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Invasion Earth Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I caught an episode of 'Fireman Sam' this morning (for non-Brits, it's a young children's series, stop-go animated models, very gentle and all about a fireman in rural Wales) I found I was comparing it favourably with Invasion Earth! I was more worried when Sam fell into a hole in the ground than when the nDs attacked the military base. I guess special effects aren't everything after all. Here's to decent scripts, characters with depth, talented actors and men wearing black leather! Judith PS. Speaking of men in black leather, I was donated a third season annual for the Redemption auction yesterday and was fascinated by the pictures. I'd heard that they'd used overseas artists for the annuals and this seems to back it up. Tarrant and Dayna are dressed more or less as you'd expect, but Avon is wearing first season outfits throughout. It looks as though the artists were given photos to work from, and nobody thought to give them new photos for Avon as his style of costume changed. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:16:41 +0930 From: "Ophelia" To: "Lysator List" Subject: Re: [B7L] Invasion Earth Message-ID: <01bd8c9a$8abf7fa0$6d4c18cb@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judith wrote: >I caught an episode of 'Fireman Sam' this morning (for non-Brits, it's a young >children's series, stop-go animated models, very gentle and all about a fireman >in rural Wales) > >I found I was comparing it favourably with Invasion Earth! And why not? Fireman Sam is cool, although I prefer Postman Pat. I was more worried >when Sam fell into a hole in the ground than when the nDs attacked the military >base. LOL! >I guess special effects aren't everything after all. They are nothing. I find they actually distract from a good plot, as well as lacking the endearing touch of poor special effects. Give me wobbly walls any time! >Here's to decent scripts, characters with depth, talented actors and men wearing >black leather! Especially that last item... - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." LONDON CALLING - a list to discuss Britcoms and knockwurst. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 22:48:38 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: "Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Invasion Earth Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Boo hiss. Everyone's being horrid about Invasion Earth. And I don't think it's that bad. Admittedly the romantic leads are rather painful - but aren't they always? For me Anton Lesser just makes the whole show. I think he's absolutely marvelous, I've always liked him as an actor anyway. Unfortunately the other day it looked like he might be written out the series, which would admittedly be a blow. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 00:14:36 EDT From: AChevron@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Warlord Message-ID: <1ffc0217.35722abe@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Having just re-watched Warlord this afternoon, I thought I'd add my 2 bits to any discussion. 1) Shooting civilians and why: Because they could. 3rd rate troops, in a boring place, with civilians they can't even enjoy beating up on because they won't fight back. Presumably on a "pacified' world, martial law still applies, and unless they have an officer that holds to "old fashioned" standards of conduct, they seem to have little to fear from them. 2) PD looks absolutely gorgeous in this episode, and cracking him out of the studs-and-black-leather into the Xenon jumpsuit was a wonderful way to show him off. 3) Zeeona and going back down. I don't think Avon expected or knew Zeeona would commit suicide. Like Soolin, I think he did appreciate that she had to atone for her father's deeds in any way she could. I think his whole attitude was a way of conveying that he considered this a test. After all, at that point she had no where else to go, and letting her carry out the mission, especially solo, would establish that she was not just "Tarrant's girl", but a valuable team member in her own right. Given that the rest of the crew were willing to assist her and Tarrant, he was unlikely to boot her onto Xenon's surface. And it was also a way of getting Tarrant to see her in that light also. 4) The glove. Simplest solution I can think of for her removing the glove, is that some critical adjustment had to be made, that was too delicate to do with those gloves on. Try typing with leather gloves, or carrying out some other function. While she may not have transported down to commit suicide, she may have a) figured she paid her father's debt if she completed the mission successfully, even at the cost of her life, or b) thought that she had some chance of surviving even if she took off her glove, and miscalculated. 5) The more I watch this episode, the better I like it. Servalan at her most cunning, Zukan with his regrets and what-if -I'd thrown-in-with-Avon, the Betafarl chase scene, the overall plotline was well done. Just took a bit to get past the hairdos... Deborah Rose -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #153 **************************************