From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #157 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/157 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 157 Today's Topics: [B7L] B7L re Avon RE: [B7L] The Web Re: [B7L] Fourth Season [B7L] B7L re The Web [B7L] Orac and Fourth Season Re: [B7L] Re: avon Re: [B7L] Re: avon Re: [B7L] The welcome to the newcomer [B7L] Re: Avon Re: [B7L] Re: avon Re: [B7L] The welcome to the newcomer Re: [B7L] Gan [B7L] Avon [B7L] Re: Fourth season Re: [B7L] The welcome to the newcomer Re: [B7L] Re: Fourth season Re: [B7L] Fourth Season [B7L] Fourth Season - why?? [B7L] ADMIN: Administrator going on vacation for two weeks. Re: [B7L] Fourth Season ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:45:32 GMT From: "Jane Elizabeth Macdonald" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] B7L re Avon Message-ID: <23F6FE5765D@sdk1.derby.ac.uk> I must agree with Todd and Avona that Avon looked better in the 4th series. The hair style in the 4th series made him look older and this is what makes him more sexy in my opinion. But never, under any circumstances has he looked a 'prat'! Even with badly cut hair he has a presence on the screen that can make you look at him in the background even if there is something important going on with the other characters. Cylan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:48:51 +-200 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: Lysator Subject: RE: [B7L] The Web Message-Id: <01BD8FB7.3E0BF4C0@cmg71700449> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----Original Message----- From: Alison Page [SMTP:alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 5:01 PM To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] The Web > [Jacqueline Thijsen] It's been a while since I last saw The Web, but didn't Avon tell Blake about the pursuit ships after he teleported to the surface? You are almost certainly right, even though I only saw it a few hours ago. Nevertheless, it still doesn't explain why they had a whole scene devoted to why Blake should on no account be told. [Jacqueline Thijsen] That was when Blake was inside with the guys he was supposed to be negotiating with. Avon told him when they were alone. If memory serves, Blake later mentioned the ships where he could be overheard, but then he hadn't been there for the discussion. I do think he should have thought of it himself, but he didn't. Another thing that irritated me was that when the women 'came back' from being possessed nobody told them what had happened or what was going on, they just had to figure it out for themselves. 'Are you Ok now Jenna?' 'Yes, why do you ask?' 'Oh.. nothing..' [Jacqueline Thijsen] They do that on TV all the time. If they spent time explaining what the audience already knows, they wouldn't have enough time left for the rest of the show. But yes, it is irritating. Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:05:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Una McCormack To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rob said: >The usual target for assassination is Animals, which is, as I see >it, a little unfair. Despite the silly scenes with Dayna and >Justin, it did have its redeeming features, such as the well-written and >sinister dialogue between Servalan and Ardus. At least the writers made >a token attempt to recognise B7's Orwellian origins. Rob, you're a star! >I hope lots of people disagree strongly with what I've said! Nope, sorry! Una -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Judge Institute of Management Studies Tel: +44 (0)1223 766064 Trumpington Street Fax: +44 (0)1223 339701 Cambridge CB2 1AG http://www.sticklebrock.demon.co.uk/una United Kingdom http://www.jims.cam.ac.uk/research/ion/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:05:45 GMT From: "Jane Elizabeth Macdonald" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] B7L re The Web Message-ID: <23FC6656E87@sdk1.derby.ac.uk> > [Jacqueline Thijsen] It's been a while since I last saw The Web, > but didn't Avon tell Blake about the pursuit ships after he teleported to >the surface? >You are almost certainly right, even though I only saw it a few hours >ago. Nevertheless, it still doesn't explain why they had a whole scene >devoted to why Blake should on no account be told. >[Jacqueline Thijsen] That was when Blake was inside with the guys he >was supposed to be negotiating with. Avon told him when they were >alone. I watched The Web last week and my impression was that Avon was speaking to Blake about 'THE' pursuit ships and not just some ships that had just happened to appear. I thought that Avon was telling Blake that the ships (that were already following us) were getting close. Also Avon was not present when Jenna suggested to Cally that they not inform Blake about the pursuit ships, so perhaps he didn'y know that he was not supposed to tell him. Cylan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:32:36 +0100 (BST) From: mjsmith@tcd.ie (Murray) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Orac and Fourth Season Message-Id: <199806041132.MAA09573@dux1.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was looking at 'The Harvest of Kairos' the other day, and noticed a very silly mistake made by Servalan when she abandoned the Liberator: she did not take Orac with her. It would have made sense to do so; for she would then be able to deny it to her enemies, even if she couldn't use it herself. Indeed, who is to say that she couldn't do so? If Federation scientists could reproduce the Liberator (as we later hear in 'Terminal') then why can't they produce a duplicate key? I was very interested in Rob Clother's views on the fourth season episodes. My worst episode is 'Power', with its portrayal of relations between the sexes. It was obviously based on, and was almost as bad as, the awful original Star Trek episode of 'Spock's Brain'. Murray Smith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:53:43 +0100 From: "Jenni-Alison" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: avon Message-Id: <199806041148.NAA10790@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Iain wrote: > > Ah, but look at Dorian. It's fairly obvious that Xenon base (or perhaps > Scorpio itself) had a state-of-the-art Autohairdresser and > Robobeautytherapist. After three seasons of dashing around in an alien > spacecraft, being shot, beaten, tortured, blown up and attacked by > mystical cosmic superbeings, I guess the temptation was just too great. I suppose we can't fault them for that. But did they really have to take advantage of the AutoTanningbed? And don't you think that the thing in the basement should have been given a chance with the Autobeautytherapist? Or maybe he was the beautytherapist - no wonder Dorian put him in the basement! Jenni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 08:29:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay McGuigan To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: avon Message-ID: <19980604152929.17311.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Helen Krummenacker wrote: > > Todd Girdler wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone agree with me that avon looked better during the last season > > with that new hairstyle. Before that, I think he looked like a pratt. > > > > -Todd- > > I don't quite agree with the prat part, :^/ > but he did look better with longer fluffier hair. > I have to agree with Avona here. I like the 4th series look better than the previous ones. It's true I'm one of the Black Leather fans, but I prefer the hair then as well. Having said that though I think he looks best in Warlord in that green flight suit. No way did Avon ever look a prat though! Jay 100%Avon > == ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I plan to live forever, or die trying." Vila Restal, B7 Sharpe's Seven: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/3612 The McGuigan Family Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4518 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:34:47 +0100 From: "fifitrix" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] The welcome to the newcomer Message-ID: <000301bd8fd4$09e9d500$a75b95c1@scarlett> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joanne MacQueen writes : >Yes, Gan is undervalued, the jury is still out as to whether or not >Gareth Thomas is adorable (I like him, but not to the extent that Judith >does), and Tarrant is prettier than I am, which is why I have a bit of >trouble with him. My apologies to the members of the Tarrant Nostra - >maybe I'll learn to appreciate his talents one day. > >Regards >Jo MacQueen We may just forgive you.........on the other hand the Godmother may feel that you need to be converted. What do you think Carol ? fifitrix ****************************************************************** Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! ******************************************************************* fifitrix@dial.pipex.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:45:12 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: [B7L] Re: Avon Message-ID: <199806041345_MC2-3F2D-FBCD@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Todd asked: >Does anyone agree with me that avon looked better > during the last season with that new hairstyle. My objection to the fourth-season hair is that it looks more Paul Darrow Sex Symbol than Kerr Avon Computer Expert. And while Paul Darrow is very charming, it's the other one I'm interested in watching. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 08:03:18 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: avon Message-ID: <7J6ODCA2akd1EwCC@jajones.demon.co.uk> In message <729e48d9.357610b7@aol.com>, Bizarro7@aol.com writes >In a message dated 98-06-03 22:39:48 EDT, toddgirdler@hotmail.com writes: > ><< Does anyone agree with me that avon looked better during the last season > with that new hairstyle. Before that, I think he looked like a pratt. > >> > >Nope. I thought he looked younger and cuter in Series 1-3 > *Much* younger. I've wondered whether the older look in the last series was done deliberately. I keep meaning to ask Sheelagh, maybe I'll actually remember next con. But he's sexy either way. Just a different sort of sexy. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:03:38 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] The welcome to the newcomer Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu 04 Jun, Joanne MacQueen wrote: > > Judith, thanks for the welcome. > > However, I'm one of the strange creatures who doesn't need reminding > that Avon is sexy! Even though sometimes I want to kick > him. Just sometimes. Vila, on those occasions, is the antidote to all > that smug superiority and sarcasm. I differ from Servalan in that a > universe without Avon and _Vila_ is not worth contemplating. I think most of us want to kick Avon on occasion . It's interesting to contemplate what makes him so attractive. I decided long ago that it wasn't just looks (or even mainly looks). For me, it's a combination of factors. I like monogamous characters. Kirk carries less conviction when he's in love because it happens every week. Avon only fell in love once and thus we feel the strength of that love to be far greater. Countdown and Rumours of Death are a wonderful pair of episodes. Then of course, there's the relationship with Servalan. Whether it is love or lust is left to the viewer to decide (I decide different ways depending on which suits best in the story I'm working on), but there can be no doubt at all that sparks fly. There's an excitement between Paul and Jackie that is there in reality as well - I saw a wonderful photo in one TV mag last year of them kissing. Although I think Chris Boucher (the script editor) contributed a lot of the best dialogue to the series and was one fo the reasons for its success, I do regret that he tried to keep Avon and Servalan apart in the 4th season. Apparantly, he didn't like the relationship. Well, I guess it was improbale, but I love it anyway. Gold, Aftermath and Deathwatch all score high on my favourites list because of Avon and Servalan. Avon got most of the best lines (thoygh Vila came out pretty well too). Paul has a style of delivery that picks up sarcasm delightfully. Which encouraged the writers to give him good lines. All the characters had some good outfits in their wardrobe. You can tell the favourites by seeing what fans wear at conventions (when you allow for the ones that are easier to make). Jenna's blue dress, Cally's white gown, etc. You see more of Avon's outfits than enyone else's though. He and Blake were the only ones who ended up with a distinctive style of clothing. With Blake it was teh trademark baggy sleeved shirt and with Avon it became black, especially black leather and studs. Styles that suited them both very well. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convRSET MAIL FROM: ention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ . RCPT TO: DATA Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:32:56 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor Subject: Re: Beanie babies To: Carol McCoy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Waveney X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.42] On Wed 03 Jun, Mac4781@aol.com wrote: > Judith, > > Where do we take the train to when we meet you? Chris Blenkarn is kindly > checking into train schedules for us so that we can figure out when we'll > be arriving in various places that we'll meet people. When I told her Dorset > for you, she said that was an entire county. The nearest station is Poole. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:33:10 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Gan Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu 04 Jun, Bill Billingsley wrote: > In a way it's a shame they killed off Gan rather than Jenna (who left at > the end of the season anyway) -- Gan was the only one not entirely in it > for his own purposes, but because he needed the people around him. His > readiness to sacrifice himself so often would have worked wonderfully in > later episodes and especially in Blake. You can imagine the contrast there > between Gan's instincts to naturally trust everyone (especially Blake) and > Avon's instincts to naturally distrust everyone (including Blake). The > only place I can see a problem is in City at the Edge of the World (Gan > would not likely have let Tarrant push Vila around so much). I think they were right to kill a character, but suspect I would have lamented whoever they chose. You're right, Gan would have had an interesting impact in some later episodes. He tended to look for the simple and obvious rather than suspecting complex schemes and betrayals. There's a telling scene in 'Trial' where they are all wondering whether Blake has sold them out or not. Somebody asks what Gan would have done and the reply is that he'd have done something obvious like asking whether Blake had left a message for them. And of course, Blake had left a message. Gan was protective of Vila. Cygnus Alpha has a good example of that. I find it very hard to decide how Gan and Tarrant would have related to one another although it's an interesting speculation. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:46:41 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Avon Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu 04 Jun, Joanne MacQueen wrote: > > Judith, thanks for the welcome. > > However, I'm one of the strange creatures who doesn't need reminding > that Avon is sexy! Even though sometimes I want to kick > him. Just sometimes. Vila, on those occasions, is the antidote to all > that smug superiority and sarcasm. I differ from Servalan in that a > universe without Avon and _Vila_ is not worth contemplating. I think most of us want to kick Avon on occasion . It's interesting to contemplate what makes him so attractive. I decided long ago that it wasn't just looks (or even mainly looks). For me, it's a combination of factors. I like monogamous characters. Kirk carries less conviction when he's in love because it happens every week. Avon only fell in love once and thus we feel the strength of that love to be far greater. Countdown and Rumours of Death are a wonderful pair of episodes. Then of course, there's the relationship with Servalan. Whether it is love or lust is left to the viewer to decide (I decide different ways depending on which suits best in the story I'm working on), but there can be no doubt at all that sparks fly. There's an excitement between Paul and Jackie that is there in reality as well - I saw a wonderful photo in one TV mag last year of them kissing. Although I think Chris Boucher (the script editor) contributed a lot of the best dialogue to the series and was one fo the reasons for its success, I do regret that he tried to keep Avon and Servalan apart in the 4th season. Apparantly, he didn't like the relationship. Well, I guess it was improbale, but I love it anyway. Gold, Aftermath and Deathwatch all score high on my favourites list because of Avon and Servalan. Avon got most of the best lines (thoygh Vila came out pretty well too). Paul has a style of delivery that picks up sarcasm delightfully. Which encouraged the writers to give him good lines. All the characters had some good outfits in their wardrobe. You can tell the favourites by seeing what fans wear at conventions (when you allow for the ones that are easier to make). Jenna's blue dress, Cally's white gown, etc. You see more of Avon's outfits than enyone else's though. He and Blake were the only ones who ended up with a distinctive style of clothing. With Blake it was teh trademark baggy sleeved shirt and with Avon it became black, especially black leather and studs. Styles that suited them both very well. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:10:54 PDT From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Fourth season Message-ID: <19980604231055.11794.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Rob said: >I missed Sand and Headhunter, which are supposed to be quite >watchable, but the rest were way below the standard set by the first >three seasons. Oh, "Headhunter" is quite watchable, except for one part that never fails to annoy me. You know how I said that I wanted to kick Avon on some occasions? Well, here is one of those occasions. It's the scene where Avon and Soolin have to tell Vena that "Muller" is, apparently, dead. When Avon tells her to try not to be stupid after she calls them murderers, I can't help thinking "You bastard". Particularly as he should know how it feels (after all, he pulled the trigger). But at some point I noticed that, when Avon goes towards her to offer sympathy, Vena turns her back on him. From that viewing of the video onward I started to think not just "You bastard", but "You _petty_ bastard". If someone can think of a better explanation for this behaviour (not mine, Avon's), then I will welcome the chance to "hear" it. Regards, Jo MacQueen Curtsey while you're thinking what to say. It saves time. -- Lewis Carroll. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:25:42 +1000 From: Bill Billingsley To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] The welcome to the newcomer Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980605102542.006d13b0@rabbit> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:03 4/06/98 +0100, Judith wrote: >Countdown and Rumours of Death are a wonderful pair of episodes. Apart from the 'raspberry jelly in a beaker' bomb. (The whole defusing scene was unfortunately unconvincing). - ---------------------------- Bill Billingsley whb@bha.oz.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:14:37 EDT From: AChevron@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Fourth season Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-06-04 19:12:43 EDT, you write: << When Avon tells her to try not to be stupid after she calls them murderers, I can't help thinking "You bastard". Particularly as he should know how it feels (after all, he pulled the trigger). But at some point I noticed that, when Avon goes towards her to offer sympathy, Vena turns her back on him. From that viewing of the video onward I started to think not just "You bastard", but "You _petty_ bastard". If someone can think of a better explanation for this behaviour (not mine, Avon's), then I will welcome the chance to "hear" it. >> Bastard seems a bit harsh in this situation. Perhaps the dear lad is undergoing hormonal stress. He's obviously intrigued(or titilated) with a lady who likes to relieve her man's stress, but he has to be careful lest he upset Mueller. Then he gets word of Mueller's death, at the hands of Vila no less. He knows there's something wrong with that, and then she starts in on the murderer bit. After he snaps at her, he does make some attempt to soften his words. Then he goes on to dealing with the mystery of the malfunctioning ship. Which just goes to show, Avon is a delightfully flawed human. The ending, though not played all that well, did attempt to address an interesting point. At what point is one being a Luddite, and at what point does man overreach himself? D. Rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:02:15 +0100 (BST) From: Iain Coleman To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Rob Clother wrote: > > As for the golden turkey award, I'd say that's richly deserved by > Assassin. Cancer was very unconvincing in her alter ego, and nothing > short of laughable as a villainess. Even Servalan, upon whom you can > *always* rely for a good old-fashioned bit of cold-blooded evil, acted out > of character at the end. And do the BBC really believe they can generate > a tense, threatening atmosphere by shaking some peas around in a tin can? > Yuck! Oh, I don't know, it had its moments, like, um, er... > > The usual target for assassination is Animals, which is, as I see > it, a little unfair. Despite the silly scenes with Dayna and > Justin, it did have its redeeming features, such as the well-written and > sinister dialogue between Servalan and Ardus. At least the writers made a > token attempt to recognise B7's Orwellian origins. > This line might work on Una, but she's weird. I'm afraid I find the Dayna/Justin bit so irredeemably shit that even Jackie Pearce turning it up to 11 in this one cannot save the episode. > Orbit is often praised for the dramatic confrontation between Avon and > Vila, and I can't fault that -- that look that Vila gave Avon in the final > scene turned everything on its head. But why were we subjected to those > ridiculous scenes with Egrorian? These were characteristic of a great > deal of Season Four -- they looked like rejects from a particularly > cheesy episode of Doctor Who. > Oh, I _love_ Egrorian. Outrageously OTT, of course, but then he is a mad genius who's been stuck on some remote base for years with only Pindar for company. Is it any wonder he's a bit gaga? Comedy of the grotesque, mate, ye canny whack it. > At least Warlord was aiming in the right direction, and by then Soolin had > very much come into character. Tarrant had become ineffectual by then, > and Avon was beginning to recognise Soolin as a threat -- both as an > intellectual rival and a superior fighter. It's a shame they didn't go > ahead with a fifth season, just to see that relationship develop. Anyway, > as I was saying about Warlord, despite the attempt to rediscover the > spirit of B7, the episode was (IMO, of course) hampered by a very poor > performance from Zukan. > Hampered also by some ridiculous costuming. Zeeona's fright wig is bad enough, though explicable as some sort of yoof rebellion, but the various planetary leaders in their fancy dress parade really kill any sense of gravitas. > Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing Blake -- and I hope lots of people > disagree strongly with what I've said! I'll look forward to seeing your comments on "Blake". You haven't mentioned "Games" at all. I rather like that one, I guess mainly because of Stratford Johns, Vila being on top form and Servalan getting to be really horrid. And what about "Rescue", with the charming and well-coiffured Dorian? Iain ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:04:55 +1000 From: "Katrina Harkess" To: Subject: [B7L] Fourth Season - why?? Message-Id: <199806051006.UAA23595@extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just joined the list and I have to say I'm dismayed at some of the comments on the fourth season. In particular Assasin - From my point of view it was one of Soolin's best episodes and the dancing round the powered down space ship was distinctly atmospheric, not to mention the amusing scenes with Tarrant over Piri. And in the beginning - the only thing that planet lacked was enough extras - BBC budget again. :( I liked Servalan when she informed what she would prefer her 'slave' to call her. ;) Piri/Cancer was a bit bad. It was the acting I think, not the lines, though I was taken in by it the first time I saw it [hang it all, I was only 14!]. And then there was Blake. Oh, how I cried and screamed and hated watching them die but it was masterfully written with crackling energy to me. Maybe it was Blake come back again - I'm not a Blake fan. ;P - but there was that indefinable something about it. Thinking on that - how many of you out there feel the Roj Blake somehow contributed something to the series that /made/ the first two seasons come alive?? I'm not sure what it was. Presense, energy, charisma... The 'soul' of it it seemed in those series... only you never noticed until one lost him. Avon and Vila are terrific and fasincating but they never could bring the 'spirit' to it Blake could. GT is a wonderful actor. :) Kate. ------------------------------ Date: 05 Jun 1998 12:46:55 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] ADMIN: Administrator going on vacation for two weeks. Message-ID: Be nice while I'm gone, little list. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Maintainer of the Blake's 7 mailing list. Mail for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 07:07:36 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: Iain Coleman CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season Message-ID: <3577FBA9.6326@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > As for the golden turkey award, I'd say that's richly deserved by > > Assassin. Cancer was very unconvincing in her alter ego, and nothing > > short of laughable as a villainess. Even Servalan, upon whom you can > > *always* rely for a good old-fashioned bit of cold-blooded evil, acted out > > of character at the end. And do the BBC really believe they can generate > > a tense, threatening atmosphere by shaking some peas around in a tin can? > > Yuck! > > Oh, I don't know, it had its moments, like, um, er... Like Avon, of course. And the old geezer. And Servalan at the auction. Everything that took place _on planet_ was fine. It just went downhill after. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #157 **************************************