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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 61
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Apology
Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
[B7L] YKYBWTMB7W
[B7L] page 29-really milking it
[B7L] dorks
Re: [B7L] oracle of avon
Re: [B7L] Re: Vila & Myers-Briggs
[B7L] Re: [B7] Vila and the Myers Test
Re: [B7L] Apology
Re: [B7L] Re: safety
Re: [B7L] Re: safety
Re: [B7L] Re Countdown: Why Blake stayed on Albian
Re: [B7L] Apology
Re: [B7L] Re: Safety
Re: [B7L] Re: Blake's bodycount
Re: [B7L] Re: Safety
Re: [B7L] Con weapon rules (was re: Deliverence)
[B7L] YKYBWTMB7W
[B7L] Re: Temperment
Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
Re: [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W
Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
Re: [B7L] Vila vs Avon in the lust stakes
Re: [B7L] Re: Temperment
Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
[B7L] filk
[B7L] My test results
Re: [B7L] Re: Safety
Re: [B7L] Pictures
Re: [B7L] Safety
[B7L] If you give me your attention,
Re: [B7L] Re: body count
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:43:12 -0800
From: Jacquelyn Taylor <Ultmtthrll@ibm.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Apology
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Tramila wrote:
> I've been told that the list is full of INTJ's and INTP's but that there is
> not a huge Vila following. Could it be that the Vila fans are in the E's
> category like me? (I'm an ESFJ.)
>
> Is this is the reason that when I ducked and ran in the other post, the 'I'
> in Jacquelyn Taylor grabbed on and wanted to play anyway. (Three days
> since that post and I am still quivering in fear. I'm just got up for
> these deep 'I' discussions. Lurkdom rules in this case.)
Tramila, I'm very sorry to have posted what I did with the venom that I
did. By no means did I mean to frighten you back into lurking! I'm
normally a very nice person. Harmless, even. And Pat Patera knows me and
can assure you this is so. Pat? Hello?
> Oh and BTW. I am here to stand up for Vila.
> <Tramila looks over to Pat Patera and cries out for her hand to be held
> because she is truly scared.>
Oh now c'mere. Lemme hug you. Y'wuss :-).
> Tramila
> Chapter Member and Pres of VICE
> Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
Jackie
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:48:00 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
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>Any thoughts on Avon's preferred type?
Sure. Her name is Servalan. <ducks>
> If this were TheOtherList, I know what the response would be :D
LOL. Does it start with a "V"? <innocent, wicked grin>
Tramila
Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:50:04 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W
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>>oh and don't forget ROTFLMAO and YKYBWTMB7W
>>he he
>'Scuse me if I seem dense here, but could someone let me know what
>YKYBWTMB7W means?
Not at all Jay, It means....
You Know You've Been Watching Too Much Blake's 7 When......
Tramila
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:39:07 +1100
From: "Roger The Shrubber" <darrenro@ozonline.com.au>
To: "B7 Main List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] page 29-really milking it
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Penny wrote
Judith! We are MOCKED! <G> Actually, I like the picture on page 29, as
well, but really,Darren, what do *YOU* think happens to the "deep dark
enigmatic" mind of a "charismatic revolutionary" when he goes "POP?"
I think he makes faces like the picture on page 29. <blowing
raspberries>
****
Blake, with Vila's assistance, manages to steal a really nifty gadget for
Avon to play with. That night - celebrations. The adrenalin & Soma & red
wine are flowing freely. With so many people pleased to see him, Blake gets
confused, thinks he must be at a convention, slips out of character, and
proceeds to get completely tanked. Then gets Avon to send Servie & Travis
an email with a scan of page 29 attached. With a MID tune playing "if i
said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me".
___________________________________
from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome !
powerplay@cheerful.com
____________________________________
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their
home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corp.,1977
______________________________________
"The Administration is out to get me"
_______________________________________
"In the end, winning is the only safety"
_________________________________________
"There are times when even confirmed cynics must trust to luck"
________________________________________
Was God an astronaut ?
_________________________________________
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634
Anxiety & Panic
_________________________________________
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634/powerplay.html
Blake's 7 FAQ & free screen savers
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:50:37 +1100
From: "Roger The Shrubber" <darrenro@ozonline.com.au>
To: "B7 Main List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] dorks
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Pat & Lorna wrote
>Poor Gan isn't even in the same league when it comes to
>clever repartee. Of course Avon would either dismiss him or humour him.
>The occassional rude remark does slip out; but who among us can help but
>be snide on occassion to a dork?
I never knew the ability to engage in clever repartee raised one from the
ranks of the dorks. Silly me. A character flaw, perhaps.
*******
My official scrabble dictionary tells me that DORK means stupid, foolish.
While I think that stupid & foolish aren't necessarily synonyms, (you can
lack intelligence without doing foolish things), Gan being slow-witted,
under-educated , not very good at anything except perhaps defensive unarmed
combat , and yes gentle & reliable, well , yes that makes him a dork, well
& truly. Unless of course, pre-limiter, he was an axe-murderer or
something, which would remove dork status & just make him a sad case.
___________________________________
from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome !
powerplay@cheerful.com
____________________________________
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their
home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corp.,1977
______________________________________
"The Administration is out to get me"
_______________________________________
"In the end, winning is the only safety"
_________________________________________
"There are times when even confirmed cynics must trust to luck"
________________________________________
Was God an astronaut ?
_________________________________________
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634
Anxiety & Panic
_________________________________________
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634/powerplay.html
Blake's 7 FAQ & free screen savers
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:13:38 +1100
From: "Roger The Shrubber" <darrenro@ozonline.com.au>
To: "B7 Main List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] oracle of avon
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Julie wrote
>>>Brian Croucher is covered under Jan Chappell
Now there's a coupling I bet no-one has tried in fan-fic!
******
Travis and Cally ? Well, I guess if she went for our resident man in
leather, maybe it's a fetish thing and she could be persuaded to have a
fling with old one-eye too .... I doubt the opposing political ideologies
would make for a harmonious long term relationship though.
___________________________________
from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome !
powerplay@cheerful.com
____________________________________
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their
home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corp.,1977
______________________________________
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:45:47 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
CC: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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>
> oh and don't forget ROTFLMAO and YKYBWTMB7W
I know up to "Rolling On the Floor Laughing" on the first acronym, and
nothing about the second... please explain?
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:05:29 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: [B7] Vila and the Myers Test
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Avona wroteL
>Vila and Tramila-- can't trust either of them. On pretends to be drunk
>to avoid the dirty work, the other pretends to be scared so we all feel
>sorry for her. ;^)
We're just sleepy people who listen on occassion. <G>
> Oh, well, don't go back to lurking. Your posts are so
>much funnier than the rest of us INTJ's nit-picking.
<gulp> But I hope that I am not annoying too many people here.
>Say, I think you can trust me anround an airlock-- I did score almost as
>high for idealist as for rational... course, I think _Avon's_ a closet
>idealist, so maybe you shouldn't trust me. :^D
Only as much as Vila trusts Avon. LOL.
HUGS.
Tramila
Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:13:01 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Apology
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Jackie wrote:
>Tramila, I'm very sorry to have posted what I did with the venom that I
>did. By no means did I mean to frighten you back into lurking!
No apology necessary Jackie. Pat warned me about the B7 group and how they
love to debate but I just opened myself up anyway. Can you say that
Tramila is not very bright at times.
>I'm normally a very nice person. Harmless, even. And Pat Patera knows me and
>can assure you this is so. Pat? Hello?
I know you are a very nice person Jackie. Pat reminded me who are you.
Please not stress about it. You did good. I am now over my shyness with
this group and have joined in. I guess I can't say that I'm a lurker anymore.
(And BTW, we know each other but I am in full hiding mode and being very
closed mouthed about it. I just need to be again from my previous life for
the moment so I hope that you and the B7 group can forgive me.)
>> Oh and BTW. I am here to stand up for Vila.
>> <Tramila looks over to Pat Patera and cries out for her hand to be held
>> because she is truly scared.>
>
>Oh now c'mere. Lemme hug you. Y'wuss :-).
Tramila grabs her Vila bear and holds on tight. <yelp>
HUGS Jackie.
Friends? Please. I'm sorry.
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:16:09 -0000
From: "Tom Forsyth" <Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com>
To: "B7 Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: safety
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Brent said (about Orbit):
> By the way, if they both die, it isn't pointless. It shows solidarity
> and nobility--things the Federation didn't have. Things that Avon
> seemingly lost somewhere along the way.
Well, it only shows these qualities to each other. You see the problem...
Tom Forsyth.
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:37:17 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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>
> Having read most of this thread and joined in fair bit of it (usually on the
> opposite side to Helen), I'd say that she's fervent, but not blind.
>
> As far as I'm aware, she recognises Avon's flaws along with the rest of us. We
> don't expect him to be a saint, because he wasn't. He was cynical, pragmatic
> and occasionally capable of extreme self-sacrifice. Which of those came to the
> fore on any particular occasion depended on many factors.
>
> If you were one of the few people he was willing to die for (like Anna) then you
> were safe anywhere with him (safe in the sense that he would not intentionally
> take you into danger and would risk all to get you out of it). If you weren't,
> then the risk increased in many different ways.
Thank you, and well said. I think those of us who say we'd feel safer
with Avon than Blake, have the possibly delusional notion that he will
consider us dear to him.
"Avona" comes from a fantasy world version of the characters, where Avon
and Avona are twins (actually Kerr and Kerrella Avon) who have a magical
bond and are as trusting towards each other as they are paranoid about
the rest of the world. So I guess that indicates how I like to think
we'd get along. :) Realisic? Probably not. On the other hand... "To be
totally known, it's like... innocence."
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:15:53 -0000
From: "Tom Forsyth" <Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com>
To: "B7 Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re Countdown: Why Blake stayed on Albian
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Sondra asked (well, sort of):
> As for 4000 miles being a "small distance", I don't buy that. If
> the radiation could travel that quickly, we wouldn't have been told that
> it would take hours to overspread the planet. (It's not as if it can
> teleport, after all. It presumably must rely on air currents to
> transport it.) Could it have interfered with teleport pickup of Blake
> and Vila? I can't imagine how, but I'll concede the possibility as
> falling under the "not negligible" part of the risk.
Well, if it's a radiation device of some sort (i.e. a nuke), then one of
the things it will do is first emit a massive gamma-ray burst, which can
easily disrupt, well, basically everything sensitive to electromagnetic
raditation, and that covers a lot of stuff. This is the "EM pulse" that the
USSR was rather hoping would knock out our hi-tech planes, and leave their
strings-and-glue planes still flying. This is why the USSR was still making
military electronics using valves well into the 80s - they can survive EMP
pulses, unlike transistors (which fry themselves in the induced currents).
Secondly, these gamma rays (and various other facets of exploding nukes,
like the neutron and beta radiation) ionise vast quantities of the
atmosphere, making things like radio communications completely useless -
the whole atmosphere becomes opaque to that sort of signal, and indeed
emits tons of static in those bands. So if you're using these sort of EM
bands for your teleport, don't expect it to work or pick up anything
coherent.
Tom Forsyth.
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:46:46 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
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> No apology necessary Jackie. Pat warned me about the B7 group and how they
> love to debate but I just opened myself up anyway. Can you say that
> Tramila is not very bright at times.
::I give an "Avon looking at Tarrant in City at the Edge glare::
Saying in a soft dangerous voice, "No she can't."
;^)
Avona
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:47:00 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com
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> So, we have some atmosphere, but Avon still tries for orbit. Maybe he
> doesn't know how to fly aircraft, just spacecraft (point'n'thrust - dead
> simple). He's probably very worried that he hasn't got a clue what sort of
> angle he needs to re-enter at for this craft (every craft is different). A
> few degrees too much and he'll stall and/or burn up, and few too little and
> he'll hit a little too hard and/or burn up.
Good point. He nearly got turned into pot-roast in Aftermath. Doesn't
want to try it again.
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:19:21 -0000
From: "Tom Forsyth" <Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com>
To: "B7 Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Blake's bodycount
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Harriet asked, about the wide balls in cricket:
> I take it that this is solely in regards to the records book, because
> surely if it affected the outcome of the game, a ruling would have long
> ago been made. Leaving me to assume that wide balls do not count
> against the batsman. Do they count against the bowler? Is he/she
> penalized if the wide ball count gets high?
A wide counts as a single run on the batting side, but it's an "extra" and
not attributed to any particular batsman. So it's not a good idea to bowl
wides, because the batsmen can usually spot them fairly easily and get a
free run. Getting more than a run a ball is very hard and risky work, so
it's a very good idea to leave wides. There's no problem with playing and
missing in cricket, by the way.
> I'd definitely have to agree with those of you who argued that counting
> wides could lead to bowlers into temptation, if a record such as
> described above was at stake. I would like to think that the noble
> character of sportsmen would prevent that, but then I think of ear
> biting, coach choking, and spitting in faces.
Well in cricket I think the umpire would probably cotton on pretty fast and
have a quiet word with the bowlers. That should be all that is required. I
don't know if any clauses of the Law could be applied - I don't know it at
all well, but there's probably some catch-all about unsportsmanlike
conduct.
[and later...]
> I then decided we'd never stop talking at cross purposes on this topic,
> and started a much more interesting private conversation about cricket.
Quite right too.
Tom Forsyth.
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:20:22 -0000
From: "Tom Forsyth" <Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com>
To: "B7 Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Safety
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Helen K said:
> Good one, Jennifer. I will NOT try to defend Avon for not figuring out
> there HAD to be a reason the shuttle was so damn heavy. Way before
> stripping all the non-essentials that couldn't have weighed THAT much.
Well, not necessarily - it might just have been very short on fuel. Avon
did manage to move it on his own, so it can't have weighed more than half a
ton, and a shuttle with half a ton more machinery on it wouldn't feel any
different than a shuttle with rubbish engines. And a shuttle with rubbish
engines can still reach orbit, it just burns more fuel for longer -
remember that escape velocity is (1) not actually needed for orbit, but
complete escape, and (2) decreases as you get further from the planet. You
can escape the Earth if you keep up a steady speed of 1 mph upwards, it'll
just take huge amounts of fuel.
So, they were basically short of fuel, hence the line:
EGRORIAN: The shuttle will run out of fuel in twenty minutes from now.
> Or, how about landing the flippin' shuttle when they first realized
> there was a problem. That would've taken less fuel than maintaining
> orbit while doing the jettisons.
Well, maybe. Landing a craft softly with no atmosphere takes just as much
fuel as getting it off the ground in the first place. However, if there is
an atmosphere and you have a nice winged and heat-shielded shuttle, you can
do it with very little fuel (just enough to get you to a decent landing
site). The Space Shuttle comes in all the way from orbit virtually
unpowered. But it does all depend on how dense the atmosphere is of course,
and we get no hints about that unfortunately - just its basic composition.
Anyway, so if we allow Mr. Boucher the luxury of having very little
atmosphere (did we see any signs of weathering on the planet, or any decent
clouds or anything else?), then the shuttle is basically going ballistic.
So, they only realise their trouble when they are at mach 8*, then they've
done most of the work getting to mach 15, so it's a lot easier to actually
reach orbit than to turn around and try and land.
Only problem is that Egrorian says they'll land at 390knots (about 400mph
or 550kph). If there were no atmosphere, the shuttle would not be going
slower than the mach 8 they managed. Considerably faster, in fact (e.g.
mach 16), so there must be some decent atmosphere.
Of course Egrorian's talking complete twaddle when he says that everything
apart from Avon and Vila will survive the crash. There's not much that will
survive a mach 0.5 hit, even if they land obliquely on soft things, as many
an airliner has shown. At mach 0.5, water, marsh and concrete blocks all
feel much the same.
So, we have some atmosphere, but Avon still tries for orbit. Maybe he
doesn't know how to fly aircraft, just spacecraft (point'n'thrust - dead
simple). He's probably very worried that he hasn't got a clue what sort of
angle he needs to re-enter at for this craft (every craft is different). A
few degrees too much and he'll stall and/or burn up, and few too little and
he'll hit a little too hard and/or burn up.
> IT"S THE SCRIPTWRITERS' FAULT-- yeah,
> that's the ticket.
> Guess I have to blame the scriptwriters for Blake using the "set up"
> line, too.
Ok, so Boucher plugged a lot of holes, but left a few the nutter orbital
mechanic could re-enter a HOTOL through. Who cares? In my book, Boucher
spends most of the episode holding up a big sign saying "THIS IS A CLICHE.
But it's got a good payoff, I promise". And it does. So that's alright
then.
Compared to PGPs where Blake survives, and slash where Avon and Blake get
it on, this is rock-hard SF.
Anyway, I'm sure you could all tell I have a great deal to do tonight. Busy
busy busy, that's me. I've got a real life to get on with, you know - can't
stand around gossiping all day.
Tom Forsyth.
* Note of course that mach numbers have no relevance at all with no
atmosphere, since they are simply a measure of how much faster than sound
you are travelling. But we'll assume that they've adopted a convenient
measure such as 700mph == mach 1, instead of talking all the time about
local mach numbers. We can assume this because Orac says that escape
velocity is mach 15. We assume he's talking about surface escape velocity,
but is that on a warm day or a cold day? The difference can easily be quite
large, so he's actually unlikely to be talking about local machs.
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:53:20 -0800
From: Julia Jones <julia.jones@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Con weapon rules (was re: Deliverence)
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> From: Reuben Herfindahl <reuben@reuben.net>
> Totally off topic here, but does anyone know where one could get
ahold of a
> good replica of the gun that the Thals used in Planet of the Daleks
or that
> appeared on that other Nation show, what was it's name ;-)
>
Ah, Rueben, a word in your shell-like - it wasn't Nation's show. He had
nothing to do with its creation, although his creation of the Daleks
when asked to write a script for the second story had a good deal to do
with the show's success.
That's the second time this week I've seen Dr Who referred to as a
Terry Nation show. Where have people been getting this notion from?
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:15:38 +1300
From: Nicola Collie <nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
To: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W
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>>>oh and don't forget ROTFLMAO and YKYBWTMB7W
>>>he he
>
>>'Scuse me if I seem dense here, but could someone let me know what
>>YKYBWTMB7W means?
>
>Not at all Jay, It means....
>
>You Know You've Been Watching Too Much Blake's 7 When......
>
>Tramila
>
So, how much is too much? And how does one know? :)
YKYBWTMB7W
... your mum rings to ask how you are, and you reply "Down and safe".
... your supervisor asks for a progress report and you say "That
information is not currently available".
... your toothpicks are made of colourless perspex.
... you wonder which one of Servalan's costumes would make the best wedding
gown.
Ooo, eck, time to go home. Before I start getting silly
ttfn, Nicola
---
Nicola Collie
Dunedin, New Zealand
nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz
"It just occurred to me that, as the description of a highly sophisticated
technological achievement, "Avon's gadget works" seems to lack a certain
style."
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:50:25 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Temperment
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Hi,
I had Allan (my husband), also a B7 fan take the test. He is a healer,
INFP.
These descriptions are pretty "on" for us, although I'm not strongly in
my type. Some of the things were still dead accurate, like that I don't
take charge until others have proven their incompetence. (oh, it sounds
so mean to put it that way, but for an INTJ, to see others muck about
with a perfectly straightforward project!).
Allan's favorite character is VILA! An idealist and Vila? Well, healers
are tolerant. Tamarila, another VICE member is here. :)
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:52:55 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Nicola Collie <nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
CC: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
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> <swings and misses>
> Well, I could do the haircut, I s'pose...
> I recently got shorn from armpit length to earlobe length, so even a total
> shave Holds No Fears for me now. Not something I could have said
> pre-snipsnip.
> (can anyone tell that a certain slash authorix (authix?) starting with P is
> unduly influencing my writing style? :))
> And I love her wardrobe (well, most of it) but it would look damn silly on
> someone of my proportions.
I HAVE the haircut (in chestnut brown),the hourglass figure, and the
closet full of full-length gowns... Is this a case of "You know you've
been wawtching too much Blake's 7?" or just good fashion sense?
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:10:19 +1300
From: Nicola Collie <nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
To: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
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>>Any thoughts on Avon's preferred type?
>
>Sure. Her name is Servalan. <ducks>
<swings and misses>
Well, I could do the haircut, I s'pose...
I recently got shorn from armpit length to earlobe length, so even a total
shave Holds No Fears for me now. Not something I could have said
pre-snipsnip.
(can anyone tell that a certain slash authorix (authix?) starting with P is
unduly influencing my writing style? :))
And I love her wardrobe (well, most of it) but it would look damn silly on
someone of my proportions.
>> If this were TheOtherList, I know what the response would be :D
>
>LOL. Does it start with a "V"? <innocent, wicked grin>
<playful cuff>
Can do - although lately it's been more B or G.
ttfn, Nicola
---
Nicola Collie
Dunedin, New Zealand
nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz
"It just occurred to me that, as the description of a highly sophisticated
technological achievement, "Avon's gadget works" seems to lack a certain
style."
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:37:31 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W
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>So, how much is too much? And how does one know? :)
>YKYBWTMB7W
>... your mum rings to ask how you are, and you reply "Down and safe".
>... your supervisor asks for a progress report and you say "That
>information is not currently available".
>... your toothpicks are made of colourless perspex.
>... you wonder which one of Servalan's costumes would make the best wedding
>gown.
Oh MY! I think I created a monster. <g>
YKYBWTMB7W..... You have a Vila Bear, an Avon bear, a Servalan bear, and
thanks to Pat, a Blake bear.
Pssssst. The Blake bear is a white hearth rug. Pat says it's dead. which
makes it a perfect Blake bear.
Tramila, running fast from the B.I.T.C.H.'s.
Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:32:04 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
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>(can anyone tell that a certain slash authorix (authix?) starting with P is
>unduly influencing my writing style? :))
P? HUMMMM... How who could that be?
>>> If this were TheOtherList, I know what the response would be :D
>>
>>LOL. Does it start with a "V"? <innocent, wicked grin>
>
><playful cuff>
>Can do - although lately it's been more B or G.
G!!!!! Tramila faints dead away.
B is not very tasteful either although I confess to reading it on a rare
occassion.
Tramila
Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:46:29 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila vs Avon in the lust stakes
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>Avon's sex appeal is not just the leather and snarl...
>
>But boy do I looooove the leather and snarl (retires to lie down for
>a moment).
Tramila and Pat break out into a bad rendition of...
Studs and Black Leather.
Where does one begin?
Is it all done with mirrors?
Is it glued to the skin?
Studs and Leather.
Studs and Leather.
Shrink to fit Lea....ther.
Tramila, letting the Avon side of herself out.
Tramila, thinking about Vila in leather duds.
<heavy panting, heavy sigh>
Tramila running for the cold shower.
Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:49:19 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Temperment
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>Allan's favorite character is VILA! An idealist and Vila? Well, healers
>are tolerant. Tramila, another VICE member is here. :)
YES!!!
Welcome Allan to V.I.C.E.
Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element
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Date: 24 Feb 1998 07:22:39 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test
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Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net> writes:
> I HAVE the haircut (in chestnut brown),the hourglass figure, and the
> closet full of full-length gowns... Is this a case of "You know you've
> been wawtching too much Blake's 7?" or just good fashion sense?
That depends, I guess. Do you frequently kill those who don't obey you?
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:38:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] filk
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What happens to old fans when they die? I decided this question deserved
serious consideration... (Oddly enough, I was using 'gay' in the sense of
'happy' in this particular song, but don't let that stop you taking it the other
way if you want to)
Inside of a Dream, by Judith Proctor, to the tune of Fiddler's Green.
As I walked a convention at dead of the night,
To see if a drink could be found before light,
I heard an old filk fan a-singing this song,
"Won't you take me away girls, my time is not long -"
CHORUS
Wrap me up in my fancy dress costume,
At conventions no more I'll be seen,
Just tell my old fan friends,
I've gone where it all ends,
And I'll see you someday inside of a dream.
Now fans share a dream and I've oft' heard them tell,
It's a place you can go if you don't to hell,
Where Blake is alive and Kerr Avon is gay,
And the cares of the real world are far far away -
The Feds are defeated and justice restored,
And Zen is still there with the crew all on board,
There's peace and there's love and there's laughter, by heck,
For they still have those arguments on the flight deck -
I don't want a harp nor a halo, not me,
Just give me the people I saw on TV,
And I'll play my old squeeze box as we sail along,
With myself and the crew all a-singing this song -
PS. You think I'm kidding about the squeeze box...?
Methods for locating Judith at a convention -
1. Try dealer's table (in dealers room)
2. Look for Gareth Thomas (in bar)
3. Listen for the concertina (in whatever remote corner of the convention the
organisers have decided to stick filkers in this year).
PPS. Anyone else bringing any instruments this year? I had a flute for company
last time and I think somebody produced a recorder. Enthusiasm counts for more
than expertise. Anyone willing to sing the words scores bonus points,
especially if my voice goes again. And if you don't know the words, I have some
very low-price tapes for sale <evil grin>.
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:51:33 +1000
From: Tim Richards & Narrelle Harris <parallax@wire.net.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] My test results
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Hmmm... I've come up as an ENFP, which looking at the profile seems to fit
in most respects. Certainly seems to explain why I talk so much... :-)
Vila was certainly an E type - I've always felt we'd probably get on pretty
well, being such sociable creatures. My husband has always said that Vila
represents the viewer in the B7 universe: in that, we'd all want to be
like Avon (Smart, cynical, in control) but most of us would be just like
Vila (scared, dependent,wondering what the hell we're doing here and what's
going on). :-)
Narrelle
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tim Richards and Narrelle Harris
parallax@wire.net.au http://www.wire.net.au/~parallax
"Look, he's winding up the watch of his wit;
by and by it will strike." - Shakespeare
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:45:34 -0000
From: Alison Page <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Safety
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Tom's post on Orbit was extremely timely as I was just going to ask if
anyone could answer all the questions which he promptly answered. You know
how it is, you are supposed to be going off to sleep, when suddenly you
have the urge to ask Orac about re-entry corridors and the density of
methane atmosphere.
What was that acronym..YKYHBWTMB7W..
Alison
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:36:02 -0500 (EST)
From: NWOutsider <sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Pictures
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Alison Page wrote:
> http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/theorie/paul/blakes7.html
This is Paul James's site, with pictures, sound files, and
episode reviews. It went up about a month ago (it's been on my links
page since the last time I updated so that's an estimate). I don't
know what search engines, if any, he's registered with.
Sue
sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~sclerc/Blakes7.html
B.I.T.C.H. "It's not just what I do. It's who I am."
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:57:34 -0500 (EST)
From: NWOutsider <sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Safety
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Tramila wrote:
> Tramila peels the false label that Sue placed over the grape label in order to
> confusual Pat. Tramila shakes her head. Yelp. She's a B.I.T.C.H. all
> right. Fits right into the Blake gang.
Sue summons the nice young men in their shining white coats to
take Tramila back to Tramila's padded cell at the Home for the Bewildered.
> Oh and BTW. I think Pat was referring not only to Space One and Blake but
Space One?
> Tramila removes Sue's glasses, cleans them thoroughly and puts them back on
> her nose. "There. Is that better Sue?"
Sue looks at the glasses Tramila has handed her and realizes the
source of the problem: Tramila has been viewing the series through two
often-refilled shot glasses.
> Hugs Sue. (Hope you take this in the fun that it was meant to be taken.)
Sue ranks hugs with teddy bears, elves, and crying in fan fic,
but compassionately refrains from turning Tramila into a pile of ash.
She knows she will probably regret her uncharacteristic niceness later.
Sue
sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~sclerc/Blakes7.html
B.I.T.C.H. "It's not just what I do. It's who I am."
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:24:35 +1030
From: "Lindley" <ophelia@picknowl.com.au>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] If you give me your attention,
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If you give me your attention, I will tell you what I am:
I'm a genuine philanthropist - all other kinds are sham.
Each little fault of temper and each social defect
In my erring fellow-creatures I endeavour to correct.
To all their little weaknesses I open people's eyes;
And little plans to snub the self-sufficient I devise;
I love my fellow-creatures - I do all the good I can-
Yet everybody says I'm such a disagreeable woman!
And I can't think why!
Having borrowed Gilbert's words to
present myself as truly terrifying to those of
you who do not yet know me, I'll remark that
I prefer to describe myself by his words in
my sig <g>. Lindley Louise Earnshaw is
back, my dears, after a long bout of physical
and mental dehabilitation that made even
mucking about on the Net beyond my
energies. My health more or less back on its
depressingly unenjoyable par, (OK, the
girl deserves a whinge) I'm back and raring
to talk B7.
I hope the proper worship of Soolin has
been conducted in my absence...
[fran]
<<Nicole sez: I do not believe we ever see Tarrant as 'selfish'.
I agree. Thoughtless, bossy, cruel, insensitive, gung-ho, impractical,
insufferable, arrogant, but never selfish. He really thinks he knows
what is best for the whole group. >>
<delighted laughter> Fran, I am so glad
to find you still with the group, and still
taking the piss with your usual flair.
<<And I am stunned to hear anyone suggest that Avon has
morals!>>
Blasphemy!
Too right. He's a slimy, slippery snake
(wow, alliteration worthy of a five year old!)
and I love him for it. If he wasn't so much
of an amusing bastard, he'd just be a nerd
with a leather fetish.
[Julia Jones]
<<Try the "wading in blood" speech in Star One (she says, waving a red rag
in front of Sue :-)>>
Perhaps I'm just a cynic - or an optimist! -
but I like to think that Avon's primary concern
at this moment was whether the Federation
was going to be wading in *his* blood.... <wink>
<<Also the general reluctance to take advantage of young, innocent females
who think he's a god, beautiful, etc.>>
But, darling, they were all such unattractive,
braindead drips! *I* wouldn't have seduced
them. I mean, there's a certain appeal in
an unthreatening gf, but, really, there are
limits.
"Assassin" is up there with "Orbit" for my
fave episode, because it is so screamingly
funny to watch our Macho Men swanning
around trying to impress that little miss.
Which would you pick - the dashing idiot
pilot or the cold intellectual poser? Or
the cool, brainy blonde in the background?
[Re brave young pilots: "I don't care how
many times they go up-diddly-up-up or
down-diddly-down-down, they're still gits."]
I'd hardly call Avon's treatment of - darn, it's
gone, that cute-as-hell Amazon in "Power' -
evidence of his morals, or of his honourable
actions towards vulnerable wimmin. Yeah,
I know, we've had the "Power" debate often
enough, but I find the idea of Avon as a
model of chivalrous virtue a bit difficult
to reconcile with his actual treatment of
romantic objects.
Bye-bye to you all, with my love,
Lindley L.E. Walter-Smith
"Just so. The girl has beauty, virtue, wit,
Grace, humour, wisdom, charity, and pluck."
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:04:41 -0500 (EST)
From: NWOutsider <sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: body count
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Carol A. McCoy wrote:
> Well, at least you aren't toasting his demise with Boone's Farm. <g>
Hell, no. Such an event calls for something in a box. 8-)
> I take consolation in the fact that Avon obviously thought more highly
> of Tarrant than you do. It must be hard to watch Avon trust Tarrant
> over Blake in "Blake" if Rojer Rebel is your favorite character.
> I'd probably be in denial if it had gone the other way.
Nope, I just see it as more evidence that Avon is indeed at
the end of his tether and has lost any ounce of rationality he once
laid claim to. 8-) I suppose if I was a Tarrant fan it would really
grate that Avon would do literally anything, risk anything, to get
to Blake again and again, but can't be bothered to check whether
Tarrant survived the crash.
Sue
sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~sclerc/Blakes7.html
B.I.T.C.H. "It's not just what I do. It's who I am."
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