From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #20 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/20 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 20 Today's Topics: Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:22:32 GMT From: "Dita Stanistraken" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #5 Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 06:08:50 +0100 (MET) > From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se > Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #5 > To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se > Reply-to: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > > blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 5 > > Today's Topics: > Re: [B7L] The Liberator > Re: [B7L] Free time again > Re: [B7L] Homophobia > Re: [B7L] Free time again > Re: [B7L] Vila > Re: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship > Re: [B7L] Vila > Re: [B7L] Free time again > Re: [B7L] Free time again > Re: [B7L] Free time again > Re: [B7L] Free time again > [B7L] Redemption > Re: [B7L] Homophobia > Re: [B7L] Free time again > Re: [B7L] Free time again (getting longer) > Re: [B7L] Free time again > Re: [B7L] Free time again > Re: [B7L] Free time again (getting longer) > Re: [B7L] Homophobia > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:08:56 -0000 > From: "Dangermouse" > To: "Paul Whalley" , > "Blakes7 Mailing List" > Subject: Re: [B7L] The Liberator > Message-Id: <199901070010.AAA12171@gnasher.sol.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ---------- > > From: Paul Whalley > > Can anyone give me any background on the Liberator. I have heard it > referred > > to as the most powerful ship in the Galaxy. Is this true? > > Uncertain - it's a big galaxy > > > - Who designed and built it? > > The System, the computer brain that controlled Spaceworld > > > - Who did it belong to before Blake and the crew occupied it? > > The Altas - the chosen brainwashed servants of the System. > > > - Has it ever tried to be reclaimed by it's previous owners? > > Yes, it was reclaimed in the episode Redemption (season 2 opener), at which > point Orac destroyed Spaceworld, the System, and a sister ship. > > > - Are there any Liberator sister ships? > > There was until Orac caused it's missiles to explode before launch in > Redemption > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:18:57 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-ID: <006a01be39d3$93e391c0$b61cac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > One of these days, all the Floydians will engage their interstellar > overdrive, set the controls for the heart of the sun, and take Arnold Layne > to see Emily play with Corporal Klegg at the great gig in the sky, and > hopefully they'll all get so comfortably numb they won't to come back. > > Can't we talk about a decent band for a change? Like Motorhead? > > Neil > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:51:31 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Homophobia > Message-ID: <006801be39d3$928ab880$b61cac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Dunne (Martin Lydon) wrote: > > >Homophobia? You're going to have to help me with this! > >What elements of Homophobia can be detected in Robert Holme's four B7 > scripts? > >(Killer, Gambit, Traitor and Orbit) > >Martin > > > Well, maybe it's just my (mis)perception, but I think we can safely read a > homosexual dimension in the case of Krantor/Toise and Egrorian/Pinder. Both > Krantor and Egrorian were ruthless egomaniacs, unambiguously presented as > villains. Toise and Pinder were, in their turn, effete and ineffectual > rentboys. Leitz - another villain - might also be taken into consideration. > Travis referred to Jarriere as looking like a powder puff (ie; poof). I > can't recall anything in Killer. The examples in B7 (and I recall a few > others in Dr Who) do indicate a downer on homosexuality on Holmes' part, > though he never made it explicitly clear in his scripts and seemed to be > trying to cover his tracks in some cases (eg; Egrorian's worship of > Servalan). But then no one ever said outright that Jules and Sandy were > gay. (Speaking of whom, I went for ages thinking that Krantor was played by > Hugh Paddick until I checked the cast list.) > > Neil > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:10:07 PST > From: "Joanne MacQueen" > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-ID: <19990107011008.27227.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Neil said: >Can't we talk about a decent band for a change? Like > >Motorhead? > > I don't know. Do you think any particular B7 character would > have liked Motorhead? > > Regards > Joanne > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:14:20 -0800 > From: Pat Patera > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila > Message-ID: <3693D22C.653D@geocities.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Tigerm1019@aol.com wrote: > > As for good Vila episodes, he has some good moments in "Seek-Locate-Destroy" > > and "Terminal." I also recommend "Gambit" and "Orbit." We can see some of > > his darker side in "Spacefall," "Children of Auron," and "Gold." We can see > > some of his weaknesses in "Hostage" and "Shadow." > > I most enjoy Vila's "performance" side, as shown in "Sarcophagus" (magic > tricks) and "Ultraworld" (riddles). > Plus "Keeper" where he puts on a wonderful performance as the King's > royal Fool. Keeper is a fine showcase for Jenna, as well; she delivers a > hilarious tongue-in-cheek role as consort to the lovelorn barbarian. > > Pat P > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 04:01:21 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship > Message-ID: <000e01be39f2$a1117fa0$511dac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Re http://mateengreenway.simplenet.com/ > > > This site well deserves a visit. Not all the pics work; it depends on how > well the foreground and background blend stylistically, I think. Some of > the B7 images aren't too hot (eg the London), but the one of Liberator > approaching Earth is dead wicked. And some of the Star Wars stuff is truly > awesome. And conveniently 800x600 so ready made for sad wallpaper > collectors (like me...) > > Full marks to Jason for making this site known. > > Neil > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 05:15:54 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila > Message-ID: <002901be39fd$032c5a20$511dac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The thing that struck me most about Vila, watching the series on video, is > how his character in the first episode is very different from everything > that followed. In 'The Way Back' he comes across as distinctly sly, > self-confident, possibly very dangerous. The cowardly comic hedonist image > began to emerge very soon after, from 'Spacefall', and the sinister Vila of > the first episode swiftly disappeared. A pity, IMO, because this darker > persona would have fitted in better with the overall tone of the series. He > could have been allowed to develop a more serious side which his actual > portrayal didn't really allow for. People like to cite him as 'everyman', > but he's really more 'every kid' (which makes me wonder about people who > claim him as their favourite character). > > Vila, as portrayed, is a supposedly adult character denied the adult > responsibilities and responses he is entitled to. Out of all the regulars, > he is arguably the least credible and the least three-dimensional. > Ultimately he is a very 'safe' character, a predictable buffoon (just as the > 'cheery Cockney' stereotype on which he is based was devised to contain and > neutralise working class unrest). People say they like Vila because they > would find him the easiest to get along with socially; what they really mean > is they consider him the least threatening, perhaps even no threat at all, > but that's only because most of the time he was subjected to trite > caricaturisation by the writers rather than true characterisation. > > Of course, I really mean all that, and I'm not just sticking a feline > predator into the dovecote to see how many feathers fly out. I mean, as if > I would... > > Neil > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 05:16:20 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-ID: <002a01be39fd$03d432e0$511dac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >>Can't we talk about a decent band for a change? Like > >>Motorhead? > > > >I don't know. Do you think any particular B7 character would > >have liked Motorhead? > > > What makes you think any of them would go for Pink Floyd? And if not, > who/what would they listen to? > > Neil > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:47:47 PST > From: "Joanne MacQueen" > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-ID: <19990107054747.13555.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Neil said>What makes you think any of them would go for Pink Floyd? > Ah, I don't. Sorry to have given you the impression that I did. Vila > enjoyed the process of becoming "comfortably numb", but I wouldn't > guarantee he'd enjoy listening to it. > > >And if not, who/what would they listen to? > > Well, if that music Cally was listening to in one episode is any > indication, the B7 universe wouldn't have believed that we might find it > painful to listen to the music played on board the Space Princess! > > Music of our time? Well, straight after Rumours of Death, I would > suggest, Avon might've been playing Geoff Smith's "Six Wings of Bliss" > over and over again (sample lyric: All my life's bliss is in the grave > with thee). Though he'd probably had enough of it by the beginning of > Sarcophagous > > Vila: Drinking songs, of course. > > Blake: Dylan? Peter, Paul and Mary? Something 1960s vintage might be > appropriate. > > Dayna: Folk music, if Sarcophagous is any example. > > Can't think of anything else right now. It's time to go. > > Regards > Joanne > > The future, ladies and gentlemen, will not be clean, pleasant or even > remotely nice...Just imagine Blake's 7 produced by men and women in the > midst of acute heroin withdrawal..., and you'll be somewhere near the > mark. > --Jonathan Wright, TV Zone no 108 > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: 07 Jan 1999 09:19:56 +0100 > From: Calle Dybedahl > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-ID: > > "Joanne MacQueen" writes: > > > Dayna: Folk music, if Sarcophagous is any example. > > So you don't think that the walls of her quarters are covered with > Spice Girls posters? > > ...or maybe that was Vila's quarters. > -- > Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se > It is by Perl alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the regex of Larry > that the code acquires flexibility, the flexibility enables obscurity, the > obscurity generates a warning. It is by Perl alone I set my mind in motion. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:13:25 +0000 (GMT) > From: Iain Coleman > To: lysator > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-Id: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Neil Faulkner wrote: > > > > > >>Can't we talk about a decent band for a change? Like > > >>Motorhead? > > > > > >I don't know. Do you think any particular B7 character would > > >have liked Motorhead? > > > > > > What makes you think any of them would go for Pink Floyd? And if not, > > who/what would they listen to? > > I can imagine Avon enjoying the cynical self-mocking humour of "The Wall". > If we're onto Motorhead (how _do_ you get an umlaut on this thing?) I'm > sure there's ample scope for an Avon-centred video to "I'm So Bad Baby I > Don't Care". > > Iain > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:41:17 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor > To: Lysator List > cc: Space City > Subject: [B7L] Redemption > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > We're just working out exact timetable details for Redemption. It would be > helpful if anyone who has offered to help with anything would let me know if > they will be around on Friday and roughly what time they expect to arrive. > > Obviously, we want to try and build the Friday timetable around people whom we > know will be there. > > Judith > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:53:38 PST > From: "Penny Dreadful" > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Homophobia > Message-ID: <19990107165339.15777.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Neil said: > > >Toise and Pinder were, in their turn, effete and ineffectual > >rentboys. > > I don't know, I always thought Toise's final words redeemed him -- at > the very least they subverted the viewer's perception (preconception) of > Krantor and Toise's relationship. > > > Leitz - another villain - might also be taken into consideration. > > But it was snuggling up to curvy Servy that led to his demise. > > >Travis referred to Jarriere as looking like a powder puff (ie; poof). > Which highlighted Travis' childish nastiness. Maybe this indicates > homophobia on the part of the character (which wouldn't surprise me), > but I don't think it reveals it in the writer. > > >The examples in B7 do indicate a downer on homosexuality on Holmes' > part, > >though he never made it explicitly clear in his scripts... > > Villains are allowed, nay encouraged, to be flamboyant. See Servalan. > And flamboyant, to the general public, tends to equal gay. Both villainy > and homosexuality are violations of the norm, egregious flauting of > convention. So in mainstream media they tend to coincide. I don't see > this as homophobia -- but then I almost invariably admire the Villain > more than the Hero... > > --Penny "Come To The Dark Side" Dreadful > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:15:06 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-ID: <000601be3a81$5acc8e60$e419ac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >>And if not, who/what would they listen to? > > > >Music of our time? Well, straight after Rumours of Death, I would > >suggest, Avon might've been playing Geoff Smith's "Six Wings of Bliss" > >over and over again (sample lyric: All my life's bliss is in the grave > >with thee). Though he'd probably had enough of it by the beginning of > >Sarcophagous > > For Avon, I would suggest Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, possibly Radiohead for > light relief. Or maybe he'd profess a liking for strange avant garde stuff > taped off Radio Three whilst secretly bopping to Sandie Shaw. > > >>Vila: Drinking songs, of course. > He has a whisky drink, he has a cider drink, he has a vodka drink, he has a > lager drink, he sings the songs that remind him of the good times... > > >Blake: Dylan? Peter, Paul and Mary? Something 1960s vintage might be > >appropriate. > > Anything with a protest theme would do. Lots of delta blues, Joan Baez, > Buffy Sainte Marie, punk stuff by the Crass tribe, maybe Pulp or Leftfield > at a pinch. And then he'd slink off to his cabin for a secret dose of > Stevie Wonder. > > > >Dayna: Folk music, if Sarcophagous is any example. > > Nah. She's young and fun-loving, so she'd rave over M People, Eternal and > Mariah Carey. Privately though, she prefers Underworld and the Prodigy. > > Tarrant: young and trendy, so Underworld and the Prodigy. Privately prefers > M People, Eternal and Mariah Carey. > > Jenna: Country and Western, and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks. > > Cally: really ought to be into moody Celtic stuff like Enya and Clannad, but > probably prefers Robbie Williams or something equally uncool. > > Gan: Val Doonican's greatest fan. What's more, he admits it. > > Soolin: that copy of 'SpiceWorld' was just a misguided but well-meant > present from Dorian, honest. Do you really want to argue with her? > > Servalan: Roger Whittaker. Unless Avon was right in 'Gold', in which case > gangsta. > > Travis: The Parahandgun Overture with Lazeron Fugue, as performed by the > Mutoid Killharmonic Orchestra. Also Massacre in D(eath) Major. Guaranteed > to slay the audience. > > Zen: anything from the Bacharach/David repertoire, especially when done by > someone like the Walker Brothers. > > Orac: Doesn't like to be distracted, so anything that goes in one ear and > straight out the other. Pink Floyd will do nicely. > > Slave: Aqua - dials in to local radio station pretending to be a four > year-old so soft-hearted DJ plays 'Barbie Girl' three times in an hour. So > now we know who to blame... > > > Who the hell started all this anyway? > > Neil > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:38:23 PST > From: "Joanne MacQueen" > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again (getting longer) > Message-ID: <19990107223824.22814.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Neil said: >Who the hell started all this anyway? > > You did, chuckie, you did This is what you get for objecting to > Una's taste in music. To go back to the beginning of that post: > > >For Avon, I would suggest Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, possibly >Radiohead > for light relief. > > Light relief, indeed. Though it does inspire the tempting > vision of him humming the first verse of "Karma Police" whenever he'd > had a run-in with Blake or Tarrant. Leonard Cohen and Lou Reed might be > too obviously doomy and gloomy, however. > > >>>Vila: Drinking songs, of course. > >He has a whisky drink, he has a cider drink, he has a vodka drink, >he > has a lager drink, he sings the songs that remind him of the good > >times... > > > > >>Blake: Dylan? Peter, Paul and Mary? Something 1960s vintage >>might be > appropriate. > >Anything with a protest theme would do. [snip] Buffy Sainte Marie, > >punk stuff by the Crass tribe, maybe Pulp or Leftfield > >at a pinch. And then he'd slink off to his cabin for a secret dose of > >Stevie Wonder. > > Depending on whether or not one equates futuristic music with > synthesisers and sampling and the like, Leftfield might be a good > choice. Marxman might be another one, seeing as it deals with a number > of "isms" that Blake would have an interest in. I don't see why he has > to keep his taste for Stevie Wonder a secret. Unless you've got "I just > called to say I love you" in mind. > > >>Dayna: Folk music, if Sarcophagous is any example. > >Nah. She's young and fun-loving, so she'd rave over M People, >Eternal > and Mariah Carey. Privately though, she prefers Underworld >and the > Prodigy. > > Yes, but she was brought up well away from the mainstream, so her tastes > could be a little more eccentric. It might even be that she prefers to > compose music of her own, instead of listening to others. > > >Tarrant: young and trendy, so Underworld and the Prodigy. Privately > >prefers M People, Eternal and Mariah Carey. > > Interesting. Is he merely a top 40 listener, or would he > prefer r'n'b and soul? (Am I playing into Carol's hands by even asking > that question? Shame on me! ) > > >Jenna: Country and Western, and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks. > > Possibly. Unless Blake felt lyrics about wives leaving and dogs dying > were conflicting with his Stevie Wonder sessions. > > >Cally: really ought to be into moody Celtic stuff like Enya and > Clannad, but probably prefers Robbie Williams or something equally > >uncool. > > The Face magazine seems to think Robbie Williams is cool in an > ironic way, so maybe not. I think I'll go back even further, and suggest > early music for Cally - Hildegard of Bingen, and sumer is i-comin in, > etc. > > >Gan: Val Doonican's greatest fan. What's more, he admits it. > > I know you suggested Roger Whittaker for Servalan, but he might be > another one in Gan's record collection. Don't forget Perry Como, Doris > Day, etc. He might even listen to Frank Sinatra if he was in a > particularly good mood. > > >Soolin: that copy of 'SpiceWorld' was just a misguided but well-meant > >present from Dorian, honest. Do you really want to argue with her? > > No > > >Servalan: Roger Whittaker. Unless Avon was right in 'Gold', in which > >case gangsta. > > Oh no, gangsta would be beneath her, I'd tentatively suggest. Too petty > and self-gratifying, she'd think, and not grand enough in scale. How > about Servalan as an opera buff with a passion for Wagner? Anyone else > think that fits? > > >Travis: The Parahandgun Overture with Lazeron Fugue, as >performed by > the Mutoid Killharmonic Orchestra. Also Massacre in >D(eath) Major. > Guaranteed to slay the audience. > > With the 1812 as the finale. With exploding solium bombs > substituted for the cannon. > > >Orac: Doesn't like to be distracted, so anything that goes in one ear > and straight out the other. Pink Floyd will do nicely. > > That does it. Forget Pink Floyd. Orac is the top 40 listener! > > >Slave: Aqua - dials in to local radio station pretending to be a four > >year-old so soft-hearted DJ plays 'Barbie Girl' three times in an hour. > >So now we know who to blame... > > He's also responsible for "Wannabe" by the Spice Girls, "Lovefool" by > the Cardigans, and any other heavily played song you were sick of ages > ago. > > Regards > Joanne > > Was Doctor Who ever gothic?...Indeed one could make a strong case for > Blake's 7 being far more gothic. After all, Doctor Who can only claim > one character called Goth, whereas Blake's 7 had a whole planet called > Goth! Furthermore, several of its episodes had the same titles as songs > by Fields of the Nephilim. Fifteen-Love to Blake's 7, I'd say. > --Richard Augood, "Gothic Doctor Who", The Velvet Web site. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:55:25 -0000 > From: "Alison Page" > To: "Lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-Id: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Neil said > > > For Avon, I would suggest Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, possibly Radiohead for > > light relief. > > Yesss. At last someone else mentions Radiohead on a B7 list. > > > >>Vila: Drinking songs, of course. > > I think Vila would like Oasis, at least their early stuff while they were > still poor boys cocking a snook at the system. Even the title of their > first album 'Definitely maybe' could be a Vila line. And I would put Pulp > in here too. > > > >Blake: Dylan? Peter, Paul and Mary? Something 1960s vintage might be > > >appropriate. > > > > Anything with a protest theme would do. > > What about the Manic Street Preachers, particularly their latest single > abbot fighting fascists 'If you tolerate this then your children will be > next'. > > I think Travis would like Prodigy, but he woudln't understand that they > were joking. > > Alison > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:40:31 PST > From: "Joanne MacQueen" > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again > Message-ID: <19990107234032.22045.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Calle said: >So you don't think that the walls of her quarters are > >covered with Spice Girls posters? > >...or maybe that was Vila's quarters. > > It is Vila's quarters. But there are layers of posters of > previous interests covered by the Spice Girls posters, which are > themselves beginning to be covered by whoever he's interested in next. > Not B*Witched, though - I suggest, from the only video clip of them I've > ever seen that they're far too wholesome for his tastes. > > Regards > Joanne > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:02:18 EST > From: Mac4781@aol.com > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again (getting longer) Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #20 *************************************