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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 22

Today's Topics:
	 Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #1
	 Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #4

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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:22:06 GMT
From: "Dita Stanistraken" <d.stanistraken@dundee.ac.uk>
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> Date:          Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:59:01 +0100 (MET)
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> blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 1
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> Today's Topics:
> 	 [B7L] voice recognition
> 	 Re: [B7L] voice recognition
> 	 Re: [B7L] voice recognition
> 	 Re: [B7L] Post-War Politics
> 	 Re: [B7L] Post-War Politics
> 	 re [B7L] Voice recognition
> 	 Re: re [B7L] Voice recognition
> 	 [B7L] Celestial Toymaker
> 	 Re: re [B7L] Voice recognition
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:52:10 +0100 (BST)
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] voice recognition
> Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0101205210-9eeRr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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> On Wed 30 Dec, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
> 
> > ObB7: This of course reminds me of my usual perennial wondering; what
> > is a Tarriel Cell really?  And how widespread were voice-recognition
> > computers in the Federation?  I got the impression that they were rare
> > because the standard interface we see the plebs and Servalan's people
> > using was a keyboard.  I assumed that this was because computers able
> > to understand voice commands were really expensive.
> 
> Two possible reasons.  If several people in the same room as using computers
> with voice control, they are all going to find one anotehr very distracting. 
> Keyboard work is silent.
> 
> Second possibility - I believe some people are already experiencing problems
> with voice strain on existing voice control systems.  (I'd never dare use one
> myself - I'm prone to voice problems at the best of times)  Mind you, victims of
> RSI would probably stand up to be counted here.
> 
> > 
> > However, another thought has just occurred to me -- maybe at least in
> > the military, voice-recognition computers weren't used for security
> > reasons.  Yes, voice-recognition as a way of preventing unauthorised
> > persons *using* the computer would seem to be a *positive* security
> > aspect - but get one audio bug in a command centre, and there goes all
> > your security.
> 
> It's certainly a thought.
> 
> > The other thing is that it might be clearer if spoken commands only went to
> > people; it might confuse the computer if a lot of people were talking at once. 
> 
> Possibly, though I think they could be trained to recognise individual voices
> pretty quickly.  Software seems to be learning voices right now.
> 
> > After all, Slave was considered to be *unusually* sophisticated, so maybe
> > other voice-recognition computers were limited to being rich people's
> > playthings, or academic perks.
> 
> Maybe there had been laws restricting the development of computers with
> personalities?
> 
> Judith
> 
> -- 
> http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
> 
> Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:54:42 +1100
> From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
> To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] voice recognition
> Message-ID: <19990102195442.09881@welkin.apana.org.au>
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> 
> On Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 09:52:10PM +0100, Judith Proctor wrote:
> > On Wed 30 Dec, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
> > 
> > > ObB7: This of course reminds me of my usual perennial wondering; what
> > > is a Tarriel Cell really?  And how widespread were voice-recognition
> > > computers in the Federation?  I got the impression that they were rare
> > > because the standard interface we see the plebs and Servalan's people
> > > using was a keyboard.  I assumed that this was because computers able
> > > to understand voice commands were really expensive.
> > 
> > > After all, Slave was considered to be *unusually* sophisticated, so maybe
> > > other voice-recognition computers were limited to being rich people's
> > > playthings, or academic perks.
> > 
> > Maybe there had been laws restricting the development of computers with
> > personalities?
> 
> C'mon, this is the Federation!  They have *slaves*, they wouldn't balk
> at the ethics of artificial personalities.  Or were you thinking in
> terms of the fear of true independent Artificial Intelligence, as
> distinct from personality simulations?  I got the impression from what
> Avon said about Zen in particular, that true AI was something which
> the experts took for granted to be impossible.
> 
> Kathryn Andersen
> -- 
>  _--_|\	    | Kathryn Andersen		<kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
> /      \    | 		http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat
> \_.--.*/    | #include "standard/disclaimer.h"
>       v	    |
> ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere
> Maranatha!  |	-> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 13:30:04 PST
> From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] voice recognition
> Message-ID: <19990102213004.28125.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> Judith:
> 
> >> Maybe there had been laws restricting the development of computers 
> with
> >> personalities?
> >
> 
> Kathryn:
> 
> >C'mon, this is the Federation!  They have *slaves*, they wouldn't balk
> >at the ethics of artificial personalities.
> 
> Maybe it wasn't ethics, but efficiency. Orac and Slave's "personalities" 
> both seem to beg for a baseball-bat to the CPU. Disadvantage. Does there 
> exist -- *could* there exist -- a personality type that doesn't irk the 
> heck out of *someone*? The Federation prefers its people to behave as 
> machines: why would it want its machines to behave otherwise?
> 
> -- Penny "Daisy, Daisy, Give Me Your Answer Do" Dreadful
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 13:47:26 PST
> From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Post-War Politics
> Message-ID: <19990102214726.16711.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> 
> Judith pointed out:
> 
> >Actually, she changed her clothing in the late third season.  I think 
> you'll
> >find she's wearing black in Moloch, Deathwatch and Terminal and her 
> dress in
> >Rumours of Death is half black, half white.
> 
> Damn! Another perfectly good theory crushed 'neath the iron heel of 
> pragmatism.
> 
> >Jackie Pearce once said Servalan wore black as a form of mourning the 
> loss of
> >her 'children' in 'Children of Auron'.  Adding that as an actress she'd
> >discovered that she looked better in black in any case.
> 
> Okay, well then my *pragmatic* take on it is: she wore white from the 
> start as a counterpoint to Travis' black ensemble.
> ([white : black :: male : female :: sex : violence] I think I said on 
> one of my web-pages)
> In the third season with him gone *she* adopted the traditional black 
> garb of The Villain -- and started taking a more hands-on approach with 
> the Violence too. Became more of your renaissance villain.
> 
> --Penny "Mamas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Semioticians" 
> Dreadful
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:47:23 PST
> From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Post-War Politics
> Message-ID: <19990102234723.24908.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> 
> I said:
> 
> >[white : black :: male : female :: sex : violence]
> 
> Whups. I meant "female : male". Freudian slip? Discuss...
> 
> -- Penny "Always Grateful For A Rough Analogy" Dreadful
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:54:59 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: re [B7L] Voice recognition
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> Shouldn't we be bearing in mind that when B7 was made, the idea of a
> computer you could talk to, and have talk back to +ACo-you+ACo-, seemed pretty
> outlandish?  About as improbable as having one in your own home, and using
> it to send messages right around the globe?
> 
> Let's face it, when it comes to information technology, the entire series is
> way out of date.  Anyone on this mailing list knows more about computers
> than Avon ever did (ie+ADs- knows more than any of the scriptwriters).
> 
> How are we to cope with this when I.T. creeps into fan fiction?  I tend to
> assume that speech circuits and voice recognition are commonplace (certainly
> not expensive), and if that contradicts the series then the series can go
> fry.
> 
> Neil
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 19:47:21 -0600
> From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: re [B7L] Voice recognition
> Message-Id: <199901030153.TAA20056@mail.dallas.net>
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> 
> Neil Faulkner wrote:
> 
> >Shouldn't we be bearing in mind that when B7 was made, the idea of a
> >computer you could talk to, and have talk back to +ACo-you+ACo-, seemed
> pretty
> >outlandish? 
> 
> Of course, it was even more outlandish in '66 when Star Trek portrayed it
> as standard equipment. The concept of voiced and voice-activated computers
> has been around for a long time in SF; it was pretty much old hat by the
> time B7 rolled around.
> 
> 	- Lisa
> _____________________________________________________________
> Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@rsc.raytheon.com
> 
> Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
> New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 20:33:19 -0800
> From: "Adam L. Fuller" <adfuller@ix.netcom.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Celestial Toymaker
> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990102203319.007cfaa0@ix.netcom.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone happen to know where in the United States I can get a copy of
> the Dr. Who: "The Celestial Toymaker" novelization? I really want to find
> that book. If anyone has any knowledge of this, please send me an e-mail.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Adam.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:30:08 +1100
> From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
> To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: re [B7L] Voice recognition
> Message-ID: <19990103133008.46005@welkin.apana.org.au>
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> 
> On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 07:47:21PM -0600, Lisa Williams wrote:
> > Neil Faulkner wrote:
> > 
> > >Shouldn't we be bearing in mind that when B7 was made, the idea of a
> > >computer you could talk to, and have talk back to +ACo-you+ACo-, seemed
> > pretty
> > >outlandish? 
> > 
> > Of course, it was even more outlandish in '66 when Star Trek portrayed it
> > as standard equipment. The concept of voiced and voice-activated computers
> > has been around for a long time in SF; it was pretty much old hat by the
> > time B7 rolled around.
> 
> Exactly.  In Trek, voice recognition was commonplace, Trek came before
> Blake's 7, so why did the writers choose for it not to be commonplace?
> One reason could be that Blake's 7, *not* being a utopia, had to be a
> bit more run-down and less luxurious.
> Of course, my problem is that I am trying to find an *internal*
> explanation, not an external one.
> 
> > >How are we to cope with this when I.T. creeps into fan fiction?  I
> > >tend to assume that speech circuits and voice recognition are
> > >commonplace (certainly not expensive), and if that contradicts the
> > >series then the series can go fry.
> 
> And Neil stands by that, as I have noticed in Neil's fiction,
> particularly the wonderful very cyberpunk "A Casting of Swords" (in
> Stadler Link), which, IMHO goes so much in that direction that it is
> hardly Blake's 7 at all.  Really good story, and a delightfully
> chilling explanation for Gan's limiter, but the pure cyberpunk seems
> grafted on to the Blake's 7 universe, IMHO.
> 
> Kathryn A.
> -- 
>  _--_|\	    | Kathryn Andersen		<kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
> /      \    | 		http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat
> \_.--.*/    | #include "standard/disclaimer.h"
>       v	    |
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> Maranatha!  |	-> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe
> 
> --------------------------------
> End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #1
> ************************************
> 
Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation.

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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:22:26 GMT
From: "Dita Stanistraken" <d.stanistraken@dundee.ac.uk>
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> Date:          Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:53:09 +0100 (MET)
> From:          blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se
> Subject:       blakes7-d Digest V99 #4
> To:            blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se
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> blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 4
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 	 Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant (not)
> 	 Re: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship
> 	 Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant
> 	 [B7L] Vila
> 	 [B7L] The Liberator
> 	 Re: [B7L] The Liberator
> 	 Re: [B7L] Vila
> 	 FW: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> 	 FW: [B7L] Free time again
> 	 [B7L] Fw: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
> 	 Re: [B7L] Free time again 
> 	 [B7L] FW: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
> 	 [B7L] Re: Vila
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:48:31 PST
> From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant (not)
> Message-ID: <19990105214831.22499.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> 
> Christine said: >When 12 year old me got hooked on 4th season B7 I 
> >immediately adored Avon and Soolin - Soolin because she had long >hair 
> and shot people
> 
> The long hair bit I can understand (when I was younger, I had bad hair 
> *years*).
> 
> >and Avon, well, I've never needed a reason - it comes naturally, like 
> >breathing :)
> 
> <smile> Any appeal Avon had for the twelve year old me lay dormant for 
> some time. Certainly, by the time I reached university and the videos 
> had been released, it had woken up. 
> 
> By the way, can I stand behind you when Carol comes calling with that 
> machine? <grin> You tempted fate with the subject line - the Godmother 
> will be watching because the magic word has been uttered!
> 
> Regards
> Joanne
> 
> Even the best quality leather has flaws.
> --P K Shaw
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:07:57 PST
> From: "Edith Spencer" <sueno45@hotmail.com>
> To: jason@jwake.freeserve.co.uk
> Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship
> Message-ID: <19990105220758.25309.qmail@hotmail.com>
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>                      Hello to All, and to Jason!
>          Wow- what a website. Very nice pictures indeed. I took a gander 
> at the cool website,
>             http://mateengreenway.simplenet.com/
>      That Jason linked to us. Say there Judith, I do think it would a 
> cool link to your exhaustive website. Thanks again to Jason for the 
> opportunity to look at some cool artwork.
>                                                       Edith
> 
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:09:32 EST
> From: Mac4781@aol.com
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant
> Message-ID: <cd703c82.36928d9c@aol.com>
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> In response to my continuation of Juliet-Dayna, Penny wrote:
> 
> > >Oh churl! I guess that means I have to find a new boyfriend."
> >  
> >  Such sentiment...*sniff*...I'm all misty-eyed.
> 
> Yes, it's very sentimental and tragic. <sob>  I can't imagine why the Bard
> didn't go for that development. 
> 
> Joanne reacts to my planned mindwipe with:
> 
> In a message dated 1/4/99 5:11:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> j_macqueen@hotmail.com writes:
> 
> > Machine? What machine? <mental block clearing> Oh, that machine. 
> >  <sorrowful> Carol, that's brainwashing. Or do you really think that's 
> >  what it takes?
> 
> Sadly...yes.  No wonder Juliet-Dayna wasn't too upset when Romeo-Tarrant bit
> the big one. :)  
> 
> Carol Mc 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:41:55 -0000
> From: "Paul Whalley" <PAWhalley@serpiente.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "Blakes7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] Vila
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> Last weekend I watched "The City At The Edge Of The World" which I really
> enjoyed. What I think I liked so much about this particular episode is that
> Vila is the central character and comes out with some exceptional one
> liners.
> 
> Throughout the episode many references were made to Vila's talents as an
> excellent thief and how valuable he is to the rest of the crew. It's about
> time he got some recognition from Avon and Tarrant. Can anyone recommend any
> other outstanding Vila episodes?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:26:22 -0000
> From: "Paul Whalley" <PAWhalley@serpiente.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "Blakes7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] The Liberator
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> Can anyone give me any background on the Liberator. I have heard it referred
> to as the most powerful ship in the Galaxy. Is this true?
> 
> - Who designed and built it?
> - Who did it belong to before Blake and the crew occupied it?
> - Has it ever tried to be reclaimed by it's previous owners?
> - Are there any Liberator sister ships?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: 06 Jan 1999 00:29:31 +0100
> From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
> To: "Blakes7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] The Liberator
> Message-ID: <usbtkdpack.fsf@sara.lysator.liu.se>
> 
> "Paul Whalley" <PAWhalley@serpiente.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
> 
> > - Who designed and built it?
> > - Who did it belong to before Blake and the crew occupied it?
> > - Has it ever tried to be reclaimed by it's previous owners?
> > - Are there any Liberator sister ships?
> 
> You seriously want to watch the episode "Redemption" (or, failing
> that, to read the transcript of it).
> -- 
>  Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
>        "I like darkness, because it shows us light" -- Victoria McManus
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:05:14 EST
> From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila
> Message-ID: <2405113.3692a8ba@aol.com>
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> In a message dated 99-01-05 17:52:06 EST, Paul wrote:
> 
> << Throughout the episode many references were made to Vila's talents as an
>  excellent thief and how valuable he is to the rest of the crew. It's about
>  time he got some recognition from Avon and Tarrant. Can anyone recommend any
>  other outstanding Vila episodes?
>   >>
> 
> Actually, later in the series, I think he did get plenty of recognition from
> Tarrant.  Tarrant had not been with the crew long at this point, and I think
> he may have felt Vila wasn't pulling his weight in the crew.  Vila did seem to
> have an allergy to work of any kind and the Liberator was in a difficult
> situation without a working weapons system.  I think Tarrant was frustrated
> that no one else was trying to do anything about it or even seemed to be
> concerned.  
> 
> As for good Vila episodes, he has some good moments in "Seek-Locate-Destroy"
> and "Terminal."  I also recommend "Gambit" and "Orbit."  We can see some of
> his darker side in "Spacefall," "Children of Auron," and "Gold."  We can see
> some of his weaknesses in "Hostage" and "Shadow."  I think of all the
> characters, he and Avon got the most development on screen.
> 
> Tiger M
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:56:53 +1030 
> From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
> To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: FW: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> Message-ID: <AE6AF4DBBDA8D111B1D200AA00DD6129015E92C5@EXSTUDENT4.Magill.UniSA.Edu.Au>
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> 
> > I don't really know much about Ben Steed, but he comes across as a closet
> > fantasy-monger who thinks SF falls under the same umbrella.  And why does he
> > always have to peddle his misogyny in every episode he writes?  He's worse
> > than Robert Holmes and his homophobia.
> > 
> > Neil (aka Rik)
> > 
> Homophobia? You're going to have to help me with this!
> What elements of Homophobia can be detected in Robert Holme's four B7 scripts?
> (Killer, Gambit, Traitor and Orbit)
> Martin 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:57:14 +1030 
> From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
> To: "'Lysator'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: FW: [B7L] Free time again
> Message-ID: <AE6AF4DBBDA8D111B1D200AA00DD6129015E92C6@EXSTUDENT4.Magill.UniSA.Edu.Au>
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> > Floyd are as nothing without Syd.
> > 
> > 
> > Una
>  Vote two for Syd 
> 
>   Martin 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:41:43 +1100
> From: "Afenech" <Fenech@onaustralia.com.au>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] Fw: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
> Message-Id: <13310246816300@domain0.bigpond.com>
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> Just for you Una -smile-
> Forwarding:
> 
> ----------
> > From: U.M. Mccormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
> > To: space-city@world.std.com
> > Subject: SC: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
> > Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 0:15
> > 
> > 
> > Wendy said: 
> > 
> > >i was surprised not to have seen any posts on the interviews that
> > >were on the BBC Choice on New Years Day.
> > 
> > 
> > And Steve responded:
> > 
> > >Just goes to show how few people have digital so far. I'm on it and I
> > >haven't seen it yet and apart from a cryptic message from Una I have no
> > >idea how it turned out. 
> > 
> > Yeah, sorry for that, chaps. I made some notes on it last night, and
> just
> > wanted to check that people would be happy for me to do a website thing
> > like Judith did for the 'Lost in Space' broadcast. People who appeared
> > were Judith, Steve, Fifi, Jenni, a trio of troopers - and two people
> that
> > I have never seen in my life before! You know who you are - one of you
> is
> > a chap in a long dark coat with a big B7 badge on, and a blonde woman.
> > I've probably even exchanged pleasantries with you on e-mail, but I just
> > don't know what you look like! Oh, and Patrick Moore appeared, but I
> don't
> > think he's reading this for me to ask permission.
> > 
> > The whole thing was quite brief - only about a minute or so long. The
> > Tarrant Nostra will be thrilled to hear that the conversation was almost
> > entirely about the Sabre-Toothed One, courtesy of Fifi and Jenni, who
> > spoke lovingly of a recent production SP was in and his lack of clothing
> > therein! Judith spoke in warm terms about the Internet and e-mail and
> the
> > joys of chatting to people from far-flung places. Steve filled in a
> little
> > avout the background of the show, and the good guys vs. the bad guys.
> This
> > was all interspersed with shots of the troopers running round and
> > ultimately bundling off Jenni - presumably for not mentioning Paul
> > Darrow?!? Then 'The Web' was shown, which Patrick Moore had described as
> > 'a classic episode of Blake's7, or so I'm told' (which just about sums
> it
> > up - deny all knowledge, Patrick. It's the best way). After 'The web',
> > Patrick was blasted into oblivion by a trooper.
> > 
> > So it was short, but fun. And if people agree, I can have them up on the
> > Internet for everyone's entertainment forthwith!
> > 
> > Una
> > 
> > PS I am e-mailing from home and don't have the Lysator address. Could
> > someone forward this for me? Thanks.
> > 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:41:36 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again 
> Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.96.990106134038.17128B-100000@bsauasc>
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> 
> On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001 wrote:
> 
> > > Floyd are as nothing without Syd.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Una
> >  Vote two for Syd 
> 
> The problem is that there have been many, quite different bands
> confusingly sharing the name "Pink Floyd". The following list may not be
> complete:
> 
> Pink Floyd (1): Brilliantly bizarre guitarist/songwriter Syd Barrett and
> his backing musicians.
> 
> Pink Floyd (2): Sometimes interesting psychedelic rock band of the late
> 60s / early 70s.
> 
> Pink Floyd (3): Massively popular global conceptual rock band headed by
> songwriter Roger Waters.
> 
> Pink Floyd (4): Session band best known for their work on the Roger Waters
> solo album "The Final Cut".
> 
> Pink Floyd (5): Tribute band to Pink Floyd (3).
> 
> I hope this helps clear up any confusion.
> 
> Iain
>  
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:44:09 +-100
> From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
> To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] FW: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
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> Hope this doesn't appear here a million times, but Una did make a general request to forward this.
> 
> Jacqueline
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	U.M. Mccormack [SMTP:umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk]
> Sent:	Wednesday, January 06, 1999 2:16 PM
> To:	space-city@world.std.com
> Subject:	SC: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
> 
> 
> Wendy said: 
> 
> >i was surprised not to have seen any posts on the interviews that
> >were on the BBC Choice on New Years Day.
> 
> 
> And Steve responded:
> 
> >Just goes to show how few people have digital so far. I'm on it and I
> >haven't seen it yet and apart from a cryptic message from Una I have no
> >idea how it turned out. 
> 
> Yeah, sorry for that, chaps. I made some notes on it last night, and just
> wanted to check that people would be happy for me to do a website thing
> like Judith did for the 'Lost in Space' broadcast. People who appeared
> were Judith, Steve, Fifi, Jenni, a trio of troopers - and two people that
> I have never seen in my life before! You know who you are - one of you is
> a chap in a long dark coat with a big B7 badge on, and a blonde woman.
> I've probably even exchanged pleasantries with you on e-mail, but I just
> don't know what you look like! Oh, and Patrick Moore appeared, but I don't
> think he's reading this for me to ask permission.
> 
> The whole thing was quite brief - only about a minute or so long. The
> Tarrant Nostra will be thrilled to hear that the conversation was almost
> entirely about the Sabre-Toothed One, courtesy of Fifi and Jenni, who
> spoke lovingly of a recent production SP was in and his lack of clothing
> therein! Judith spoke in warm terms about the Internet and e-mail and the
> joys of chatting to people from far-flung places. Steve filled in a little
> avout the background of the show, and the good guys vs. the bad guys. This
> was all interspersed with shots of the troopers running round and
> ultimately bundling off Jenni - presumably for not mentioning Paul
> Darrow?!? Then 'The Web' was shown, which Patrick Moore had described as
> 'a classic episode of Blake's7, or so I'm told' (which just about sums it
> up - deny all knowledge, Patrick. It's the best way). After 'The web',
> Patrick was blasted into oblivion by a trooper.
> 
> So it was short, but fun. And if people agree, I can have them up on the
> Internet for everyone's entertainment forthwith!
> 
> Una
> 
> PS I am e-mailing from home and don't have the Lysator address. Could
> someone forward this for me? Thanks.
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:50:40 PST
> From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Re: Vila
> Message-ID: <19990106215040.11399.qmail@hotmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Another try at sending this. Hotmail decided to be unco-operative 
> yesterday afternoon, and is continuing this morning. Hopefully, this 
> will get through.
> 
> Tiger M wrote: >Vila did seem to have an allergy to work
> 
> It's bit, I suppose like his claim to have bought into his rung on the 
> social ladder - work, like brains, gets you noticed. Not good for a 
> thief, even one who likes a pat on the head (or, better still, access to 
> drinkies) whenever he's done something right.
> 
> >I think Tarrant was frustrated that no one else was trying to do 
> >anything about it or even seemed to be concerned.
> 
> Tarrant becomes tetchy rather easily in the third series (down, Carol, 
> down <grin>). But, because "City" is on my list of episodes still to be 
> seen, I have no idea if there are any indications that the rest of the 
> crew have other priorities. They could still outrun the opposition, so 
> long as they had sufficient notice. It might have been the next thing on 
> Avon's list (or Dayna's, if it comes to that), but Tarrant's military 
> training may have made him feel naked, so to speak, without some sort of 
> fully functioning weaponry on call.
> 
> >I also recommend "Gambit" and "Orbit".
> 
> Same here, although the bit in the latter where Elmer Awon goes huntin' 
> for Wilas makes me want to kick our old friend Kerr from here to the 
> Arctic Circle, and that's a long way.
> 
> Regards
> Joanne
> 
> Henry Crun: Ah, it's shiny, short and dreadful Neddy, back from the 
> China Wars. Come in, come in. Put your feet up. [Sound FX of loud crash] 
> You shouldn't have done it from the standing position.
> --"The Giant Bombardon", The Goon Show.
> 
> 
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