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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 258

Today's Topics:
	 [B7L] Heads up for bargain hunters
	 [B7L] Fw: Ironies
	 Re [B7L] Spacials
	 RE: Re [B7L] Spacials
	 Re: Re [B7L] Spacials
	 Re: [B7L] Trial summary

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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:45:27 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: freedom-city@blakes-7.org, Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Heads up for bargain hunters
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Annie found a way to make it easier for all of you to link into the eBay 
auction of items from her B7 collection. You can either click on the link 
here <A HREF="http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7">eBay View About Me for 
ashton7</A>  or else type in: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7 

I'm relaying this message from Annie:

Leah and I have begun the somewhat arduous, but also interesting, task of 
cleaning out our extensive collections of fannish memorbilia. We have a 
fairly large house but, quite frankly, the books and photos and posters and 
the like are taking things over! 

So, we're going to be spending the next few months doing a "spring" cleaning, 
so to speak. Both of us have been collecting fannish photos, magazines, 
posters and all sorts of "stuff" for over twenty years. Many of these items 
were well-loved in their day, but now they sit in albums or closets or 
drawers and are sadly not enjoyed. Accordingly, we decided it was time to 
send them along to new homes. 

I've begun scanning and posting these items to E-bay. Most of the minimum 
bids are absurdly low ($1.00-$5.00) and I'm quite happy if they sell at even 
the minimum bid. We will be adding to the postings probably on a daily basis 
for some time to come. The fandoms currently represented on E-Bay are 
Highlander, X-Files, Blakes 7, Babylon 5, Magnum PI, Lethal Weapon, Buffy, 
Rat Patrol, tons of Harrison Ford pic and magazines (many of them very rare 
and hard to find), Alias Smith & Jones, Forever Knight, A-Team, S.W.A.T. and 
much more to come, including Beauty & the Beast, Robin of Sherwood (drop dead 
goregous shots of Michael Praed), Clint Eastwood, various Western fandoms, 
Man from UNCLE, V, and much more. 

If you think you might be interested, you can go to the link below to view 
all of the currently active auctions. If you need the URL for a direct link, 
it is: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7 

If you aren't interested, well, sorry for taking up your time! 

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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:49:26 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Fw: Ironies
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Hi folks, I'm forwarding this for Leah, Alison


>The final episode of the truncated season of BABYLON 5: CRUSADE will be
>airing this week. Some of you will recall that this series was JMS's
'homage'
>to BLAKES 7. The network that was funding the series told him to add all
>sorts of ridiculous elements to the show so they could use it as a lead-in
>booster for their other popular programmes, and JMS responded by choosing
to
>discontinue the show rather than compromise its quality. This is a shame,
as
>it was getting quite excellent and we were growing fond of some of the
>characters (many of whom were deliberately adapted from B7).
>
>The irony comes from the way things worked out. The trunicated season left
>CRUSADE with a grand total of...13 episodes.
>
>Leah

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:01:55 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re [B7L] Spacials
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I've recently been banging my hea against a wall trying to calculate a
workable value for a spacial.  (When that didn't work, I tried sitting down
and thinking about it, but ended up banging my head against a wall again.)

Has anyone had a go at this thorny little problem?  If so, what results did
you get?

The main problem I've encountered is resolving the stated detector range of
Federation pursuit ships (two million spacials) with Liberator's standard
orbital altitude (1000 spacials).  You either get a value so low that the
Feds pick up the Liberator when its milliseconds away, or so high that
Liberator can park outside the solar system while the crew teleport down.

Ideally, you need a canonical reference to a situation where range (in
spacials), journey time, and ship speed are all given.  I can't think of any
such case - there are several that give two of these three vital criteria,
but two ain't good enough.

All thoughts welcome.

Neil

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:04:14 +0200
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: Re [B7L] Spacials
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Neil said:

> The main problem I've encountered is resolving the stated 
> detector range of
> Federation pursuit ships (two million spacials) with 
> Liberator's standard
> orbital altitude (1000 spacials).  You either get a value so 
> low that the
> Feds pick up the Liberator when its milliseconds away, or so high that
> Liberator can park outside the solar system while the crew 
> teleport down.

I don't know a whole lot about physics, (never got past basic bullet
trajectories in high school) but does this unit have to be something
absolute like light-years or kilometers? I mean, they're usually travelling
faster than light, so couldn't they be using a unit for distance that
depends on how fast you're going relative to the pursuit ships or the planet
or whatever they happen to be talking about? If such a thing is practical,
it would explain why a spacial seems to be less when they're in orbit than
when they're followed by pursuit ships. And even when they are in orbit, the
pursuit ships must still move very quickly relative to them, while the
planet isn't, so there would still be a difference. 

Someone please tell me if this is crap?

Jacqueline

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:12:03 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Re [B7L] Spacials
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Neil said -

>All thoughts welcome.


I'm certainly the last person to sit down and work this out, but here's a
thought. Why should a spacial be an absolute measurement?

For example spacials may be calculated with reference to the arc they make
in relation to the point in space where you are and therefore expand in size
the further away the measured distance is from that point.

Or perhaps time-distort drive means you can travel faster the further away
you are from a gravitational source, so a spacial represents the distance
you can move in time T at maximum possible speed.

Or perhaps a spacial represents a wodge of space-time that grows and shrinks
according to how fast you are moving.

(stop me if I'm getting too technical :-)

Alison

PS I always want to write spatial - I've had to go through and change it
throughout

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:18:07 EDT
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Trial summary
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This was great, Joanne.:-)  Thanks for posting it.  

Tiger M

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