From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #263 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/263 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 263 Today's Topics: [B7L] Re: Spacials Re: [B7L] Re: Spacials Re: [B7L] Re: Spacials Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials [B7L] Oldbury Power Station Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials [B7L] ADMIN: Just a test, ignore ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:08:28 +0100 From: "James Mansson ARGO" To: Subject: [B7L] Re: Spacials Message-ID: <000f01bef847$62350180$f3f036c3@orac> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF84F.C3A6DCB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF84F.C3A6DCB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How about n spacials =3D n squared meters? E.g. 1,000 spacials =3D 1,000,000 meters (1,000 km). 2,000,000 spacials =3D 4,000,000,000,000 meters (4,000,000,000 km). Are these values meaningful? Well, Pluto is about 5,913,520,000 km from the Sun, so the detection = range should be adequate! I'm not sure about the orbital distance (1,000 km). Is this plausible? James ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF84F.C3A6DCB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How about n spacials =3D n squared=20 meters?

E.g. 1,000 spacials =3D 1,000,000 = meters (1,000=20 km).
2,000,000 spacials =3D 4,000,000,000,000 meters (4,000,000,000=20 km).

Are these values = meaningful?

Well, Pluto is about 5,913,520,000 = km from the=20 Sun, so the detection range should be adequate!

I'm not sure about the orbital = distance (1,000=20 km). Is this plausible?

James

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF84F.C3A6DCB0-- ------------------------------ Date: 06 Sep 1999 11:07:56 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Spacials Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII "James Mansson ARGO" writes: > [2 ] Ah, there's something I forgot to mention in the FAQ! -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Maintainer of the Blake's 7 mailing list. Mail for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:26:06 +0100 (BST) From: Iain Coleman To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Spacials Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, James Mansson ARGO wrote: > How about n spacials = n squared meters? > > > I'm not sure about the orbital distance (1,000 km). Is this plausible? Yes. This would be a fairly low, fast orbit. Geostationary orbit is about 36000 km, or 6000 spacials. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:27:50 +0100 From: "Deborah Day" To: "blakes7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials Message-ID: <00b201bef85a$dd4e64c0$6e83bc3e@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---- >> >This is fine as far as it goes, but supposing you were in orbit around a >> >planet and something was coming towards you from deep space. Which sort do >> >you use - the one that refers to your ship or the incoming one? They would >> >have to have different names - perhaps something like orbit spacials and >> >speed spacials. I guess they weren't really thought through at the time >> and >> >the different writers just put in something that sounded good. Also, it >> >would be difficult to define the size of the solar system - they don't have >> >a neat line round the outside > >Well, technically speaking, I think the edge is where the solar wind ceases to >operate, but I can't recall what stops it. > I don't think it has a defined edge as such, but just gradually peters out. > >I've got a brand new idea. Spacials operate on a logarithmic scale. > >How would that do? You could then have small numbers for things close by and >bigger numbers for things far off without having to use massive numbers. > >ie. A spacial could be the power to ten of the number of kilometers. Ten >kilometers would be 1 spacial, 100 km = 2 spacials. 1000km = 3 spacials, etc. Now this is the best idea yet! Well done Judith. Debbie Day. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:25:25 +0100 (BST) From: Iain Coleman To: Deborah Day Cc: blakes7 Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Deborah Day wrote: > > > >Well, technically speaking, I think the edge is where the solar wind ceases > to > >operate, but I can't recall what stops it. > > > > I don't think it has a defined edge as such, but just gradually peters out. > The edge of the solar system is the heliopause, where a shock wave slows the solar wind to subsonic speeds, allowing it to merge with the interstellar medium. Modelling places this at about 150 AU. (1 AU is the distance from Earth to the Sun, about 150 million km). To give some idea of scale, Pluto, the furthest planet, orbits the Sun at a distance of 39.5 AU. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:26:30 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Freedom City , Benedict Walmisley , Sarah Tindall , Daniel Tilley Subject: [B7L] Oldbury Power Station Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII My local fan club just asked me to organise a trip to Oldbury power station where several B7 episodes were filmed (Timesquad, Redemption, Killer). It's in the Bristol area and they seem only to willing to give us a guided tour, so if other people are intersted in coming too, drop me a line and I'll try and find a date to take us all. It can be any day of the week, even Sunday and there's no charge for the tour. The whole tour takes arund two hours of which about an hour and a quarter is spent in the actual power station. I'll post full details when a date has been chosen, so if anyone else wants to come along at that point, they can sign up. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:28:51 +0200 From: Steve Kilbane To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials Message-Id: <199909061228.NAA07977@whitecrow.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On the contrary. The main thing you want to know in navigation or battle is > 'how long subjectively until such and such an event' It doesn't work all the time, though. How do you clearly specify an orbit? In this case, you're specifying the result of a function, but not enough of the variables to resolve it. steve ------------------------------ Date: 07 Sep 1999 12:57:12 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] ADMIN: Just a test, ignore Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #263 **************************************