From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #8 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/8 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 8 Today's Topics: [B7L] Federation Class System. Re: [B7L] Free time again/GETTING OFF TOPIC Re: [B7L] Free time again/GETTING OFF TOPIC Re: [B7L] Tanith Lee and her Fascism? [B7L] Re: Tanith Lee and her Fascism? Re: [B7L] Free time again (getting even longer) Re: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship Liberator Re: [B7L] Vila [B7L] Phoenix Re: [B7L] Tanith Lee and her Fascism? Re: [B7L] Federation Class System. Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #298 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:32:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Joseph Marshall To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Federation Class System. Message-Id: <9240.199901101632@perdita> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, I've been listening in for some time now, but this is my first post... Sarah T. Writes: >Neil, why do you feel that Vila wasn't really a Delta? > >This is a very popular idea in fan fiction, but it's always bothered me a >bit, because it seems to me that that view acepts the Federation grading >system as having some sort of validity. That is, Deltas really =are= stupid- >- and therefore clever Vila can't possibly be one. I feel uncomfortable >with that idea. I've always thought that the Federation classes are based on those in `Brave New World' (Alpha to Epsilon). If this was the case, then Deltas might indeed be stupid - due to tampering with their development in the womb/bottle (in BNW alcohol is introduced into foetus' amniotic fluid to reduce brain development). This isn't the only BNW reference in the series - mind control / conditioning and the unimportance of the individual are both strong themes. The most obvious reference is that characters in BNW drug their worries away with soma. On the other hand, I don't think that B7 was really meant as an extrapolation of BNW - Auron apart, most children seem to be born, not grown in bottles! See you, Joe. -- Joe Marshall * A Mathematician. joem@remove_to_mail.maths.warwick.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:14:08 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again/GETTING OFF TOPIC Message-ID: <3698DFE0.8C4@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ShilLance@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/8/99 5:42:14 PM EST, pussnboots@geocities.com writes: > > << I agree. In a self defense class the instructor showed a Remo Williams > movie: and pointed out all the instances where Remo used items at hand > to fight attackers. i.e. quick wit in knowing what to grab and what to > do with it. >> > > Question. How many Remo Williams movies are there? I only know of one > subtitled "The Adventure Begins" Were there otheres, There may have been a second (not sure) but certainly no more. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:16:32 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again/GETTING OFF TOPIC Message-ID: <3698E070.1F22@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ShilLance@aol.com wrote: > Question. How many Remo Williams movies are there? I only know of one > subtitled "The Adventure Begins" Were there otheres, There may have been a second (with same actor) - not sure - but certainly no more. I wonder why? Most action heroes wind up in a whole series of encores. Remo wasn't great, but no worse than the rest of the pack. Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:19:51 PST From: "Penny Dreadful" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Tanith Lee and her Fascism? Message-ID: <19990110211952.1290.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Neil asked in wide-eyed innocent surprise: >You mean you haven't noticed it? Hmm, you know now that I think about it, I think I did notice some definite fascist overtones in the script she wrote for, um, what was the name of that episode, I forget, but it's the same one where Avon says, "I think we could all use some rest, if y'know what I mean" and licks his lips and waggles his eyebrows like Groucho Marx at Tarrant and strides manfully off the flight deck and Tarrant titters like a schoolgirl and follows him. Correct me if I'm wrong but I got the distinct impression they were sneaking off together for a surreptitious viewing of a rare contraband copy of "Triumph of The Will". You know the episode I mean, right? -- Penny Dreadful, S.D. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:52:36 -0000 From: "Susan Bennett" To: "Lysator" Subject: [B7L] Re: Tanith Lee and her Fascism? Message-ID: <000001be3ce0$7982aae0$f291cbc1@compaq> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil said: >>>You mean you haven't noticed it?<<< I haven't noticed it either. Are you going to enlighten us? Susan Bennett -------------------------------------------------------------- "While a crane may stand by balance, You will never see one dance." Julia Ecklar ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:46:26 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again (getting even longer) Message-ID: <19990110214626.22995.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain >Re Avon >>Leonard Cohen and Lou Reed might be >>too obviously doomy and gloomy, however. >Oh, I dunno. I can just picture him staring penetratingly at the wall >while Ole Gravelthroat drones through 'Coney Island Baby'. Have to take your word on that one. But I did give a little bit of thought to this over the weekend. Why not some of Elvis Costello's stuff? At his best, there's that combination of sweetness and absolute acid that might be appealing to the man in black. "And I would rather be anywhere else than here today" (from the chorus of "Oliver's Army") is the mood he's in through most of the series, whenever he's not particularly interested in something. >>How about Servalan as an opera buff with a passion for Wagner? >>Anyone else think that fits? >Wagner isn't Pop Music and doesn't count. That's making up the rules as you go, Neil, isn't it? I could be wrong, but I don't remember anyone disallowing any musical form. >>That does it. Forget Pink Floyd. >I wish, I wish... Now, now, Neil My apologies to Una, by the way. Regards Joanne It is in human nature to think wisely and to act in an absurd fashion. --Anatole France ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:22:32 +1100 From: "Afenech" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship Liberator Message-Id: <21383053181324@domain6.bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone -smile- Neil said: > Re http://mateengreenway.simplenet.com/ > > This site well deserves a visit. Agreed! The computer graphicised pictures of 'Liberator' in orbit and approaching Earth are **beautiful.** > > Full marks to Jason for making this site known. Thanks Jason -smile- Pat Fenech ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:28:42 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila Message-ID: <19990110222843.25489.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Neil wrote: >People like to cite him as 'everyman', but he's really more >'every kid' (which makes me wonder about people who claim him as >their favourite character). Vila, as portrayed, is a supposedly adult >character denied the adult responsibilities and responses he is >entitled to. Out of all the regulars, he is arguably the least credible >and the least three-dimensional. Of course, it helps to have seen every episode But for those of us who came in during the fourth series, and were children at the time, a lot of this would have gone over our heads. That cartoon element would've had some part in Vila's appeal. I agree (now) with the "every kid" part - that tendency towards irresponsibility would be a worry in a real adult. But it seems to me that Vila comes from a situation where if something important has to be done, it will be someone else's job, so what need has he to be responsible and "adult"? Admittedly, that wasn't necessarily uppermost in Terry Nation's mind when he created the character, but he is on record as suggesting Vila was meant as a clown, as comic relief when it was needed, with all the irresponsibility that the suggestion implies. Which makes those occasions when he is capable of being responsible, and even threatening (as with the scene where he, Tarrant and Dayna are trying to find out what what happened to Soolin and Avon in "Gold"), such a surprise. If one finds darker aspects to the character in his very first episode, one has to ask why the buffoon is uppermost most of the time, and whether the darker persona is the "true" character or a reaction to circumstance. As well, it has been suggested that "The Way Back" isn't terribly indicative of the series as a whole. One could view that darker aspect of the character as being as experimental as that first episode. How much of that move away from the darker aspects of the first show is due to Terry Nation wanting a lighter element, and how much is Chris Boucher's scriptediting, I don't know. There again, I have come to Vila's defence because I consider him an antidote to Avon Regards Joanne Trust me, but look to thyself. --Proverb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:44:39 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Phoenix Message-ID: <19990111024439.14561.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain I am looking at the first 20 pages of the first volume of Phoenix, which I printed out during my lunchbreak. Narrelle Harris would be far more pleased, as I am, with this latest attempt to print out of her stories - there can be no doubt that a laser printer not only walks all over a 24-pin printer, it also stomps it into the subsoil. Thankyou for keeping them available, Narrelle. Regards Joanne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 1999 06:31:31 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Tanith Lee and her Fascism? Message-ID: "Neil Faulkner" writes: > You mean you haven't noticed it? No. But then I've only read 50-60 of her novels and a few collections of short stories. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se "I like darkness, because it shows us light" -- Victoria McManus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:38:00 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Federation Class System. Message-ID: In message <9240.199901101632@perdita>, Joseph Marshall writes >I've always thought that the Federation classes are based on those in >`Brave New World' (Alpha to Epsilon). If this was the case, then >Deltas might indeed be stupid - due to tampering with their >development in the womb/bottle (in BNW alcohol is introduced into >foetus' amniotic fluid to reduce brain development). > It's also quite likely that the Deltas in the Dome are fed drugs to keep them stupid - there's ample evidence of drug use to control the Terran population, and it could well be that one aspect of that control was enforcing the caste system. This is often alluded to in fanfic, generally in no more detail than suggesting that the Alphas and occasionally Betas were given a lower dosage of suppressants as they were doing the jobs where you wouldn't want someone blitzed out of their mind. As for what happens when the entire society is kept high on happy pills - just ask your friendly local Paranoia GM. Calle, Deborah, we really must find time at Redemption... -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:18:13 GMT From: "Dita Stanistraken" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #298 Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:21:33 +0100 (MET) > From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se > Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #298 > To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se > Reply-to: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > > blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 298 > > Today's Topics: > Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 > Re: [B7L] Languages > [B7L] Herstmonceux > [B7L] Re: Peladon > [B7L] Re: Brian C's one man show > [B7L] Radio Times > [B7L] Carnell > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:21:03 -0000 > From: "Dangermouse" > To: , > Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 > Message-Id: <199811302342.XAA23206@gnasher.sol.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > What do you mean "shagging Robert Beltran?" > > "Having extramarital sex with" > > > Maybe they've been in space longer than 3 years. Perhaps the time > discussion > > on Blake's 7 should also apply to Voyager. > > No they've always been careful (or foolish) to make sure the numbers add > up. They're now in their fifth year of flying home. > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:13:42 +0000 (GMT) > From: Una McCormack > To: Lysator > Subject: Re: [B7L] Languages > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Judith asked the fascinating question: > > >What languages might have persisted until the time of the Federation and > >why? > > I read a wonderful story called 'Conversation Piece' by Claire Jordan > (?) from, I think, the Slave zine, published around 1980, which speculated > the continuance of Celtic language and custom into the Federation era. > [Sarah T. can no doubt correct me on my zine facts here! ;) ] Most > interestingly, it considered the status of the individual Celtic > parliaments under Federation rule. > > I also recall another story (can't for the life of me remember where) > which suggested that Governor Le Grand was a French name, and that Outer > Gal was originally a French colony. Tied in very nicely with the names. > > Latin might exist in the form of a handful of surviving manuscripts, but > whether anyone would have sufficient scholarly expertise to read them, or > whether such expertise would be allowable, I doubt. Mainly, I think, > because most of these manuscripts would be religious texts, and the > destruction of such things would be a necessary part of the Federation's > attempts to eradicate religion. Perhaps the same would go for Hebrew. I > imagine a form of intellectual destruction and iconoclasm *at least* on > the scale of the Dissolution of the Monasteries, or the Puritan period in > England in the 1640s. > > Neil: I liked your mention of Esperanto a lot. This is one of my favourite > gags from the Stainless Steel Rat books. Isn't in 'Red Dwarf' as well? I > also liked your remark that: > > >Even if the Federation might want to obliterate all other languages, a > >pragmatic Space Command might bend the rules if they could see the point. > > which I thought was spot on. > > > Incidentally, and I'm not sure how this works in terms of canonical > references to Federation history, but don't forget that language shifts > pretty quickly. If some of these planets were settled in a wave of > expansion, and then were left alone for a period of Federation > contraction, then once the Federation came back again, it's perfectly > possible for these languages to have developed, at the very least, hugely > distinct accents and even have become unintelligble. I can barely make out > a broad Northern Irish accent! > > > Alison said: > > >However something about the feel of the Federation in the B7 Universe > >makes me agree that language, and even accent, would be used as a means > >of social stratification. > > Definitely. Particularly within Earth society, which seems very rigidly > stratified. > > > Una > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I don't know where I'm going, or who I'm meeting - but I know I'm late. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Judge Institute of Management Studies Tel: +44 (0)1223 766064 > Trumpington Street Fax: +44 (0)1223 339701 > Cambridge > CB2 1AG http://www.sticklebrock.demon.co.uk/una > United Kingdom http://www.jims.cam.ac.uk/research/ion/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:15:53 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor > To: Lysator List > cc: Space City > Subject: [B7L] Herstmonceux > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > Moday turned out to be quite an interesting day: cold, but interesting. I > dumped the boys at their respective schools as early as I possibly could > (including Kelvin with stacks of wargaming stuff for his after school club - he > was not happy at the prospect of having to carry it all home himself...), drove > into Poole and parked at the station. Buying a ticked, I discovered, not really > to my surpise, that the railway telephone enquiry line had got it wrong as > usual. They'd given me the correct train, but had wrongly informed me that I > could use my railcard on this journey. Ten quid more than what I'd > hoped. > > Several changes of train later, I'd survived the toyal lack of any buffet thanks > the the kindness of a fellow traveller who fed me a chocolate and orange > flapjack. We ended up having a very interesting discussion on geology all the > way to Brighton. (At least I wasn't thirsty. One of my unbreakable rules is > never embark on any rail jouney, no matter how short, without taking a bottle of > water.) > > I finally got to Polgate station around midday and was collected by a man from > the BBC who drove myself and a couple of other fans to Herstmonceux. Talk about > the perfect place to film a Blake's 7 episode. This used to be the home of the > Royal Greenwich Observertory (prounounced Grennich, just to confuse foreigners) > and some of the stuff is still here. The copper covered domes that housed the > telescopes are green with verdigris now and look fantastic. Round each dome > there's a small balcony and we could see a group of fans standing on the balcony > as we drew in. We waved to them (Hi Steve) and went on into the canteen (the > place is now a science centre and obviously open to the public most of the > time). Patrick Moore was already there, though I'm sorry to say that we were > all so busy discussing fannish things with on another that we said very little > to him. > > We gossiped and laughed and as more fans arrived, we gossipped even more. I'd > brought a few bits and bobs along with me. Sheelagh Wells had originally been > going to appear on the programme as well, but unfortunately work committments > got in the way. I brought a few of her tapes along for good luck. I lent Fiona > the one that I'd been listening to on my Walkman, waited for the inevitable > laugh and then went in for the kill and promptly sold her two tapes. You don't > need a sales pitch for those tapes - they sell themselves. > > Reminds me. Sheelagh is planning her next tape now. She won't be drawn as to > who will appear on it as that depends to some extent on people's work > committments at the time of recording, but it will be called 'Solstice'. The > dictionary says of a solstice that it is a moment of pause and reflection. > People ordering the tape from her in advance will be entered into a draw for a > B7 related prize. > > More fannish chat. I passed Sheelagh's regards onto Patrick - she knows him of > old and rather regretted not being able to see him again (I guess make-up > artists get to know all sorts of interesting people). Various invividuals > vanished to be interviewed. I passed my Gareth photo collection around and sold > a couple of fanzines. Several of us had been asked to bring photos, fanzines, > costumes, etc. but in the event none of these were used as the weather remained > dry and Ralph decided to film everything outside and use the local scenary as a > backdrop. > > We ate a rather sorry-looking ploughman's lunch courtesy of the BBC and more > fans arrived. I think there were ten or fifteen of us in all, though I suspect > at least half will get lost in the editing as I believe there's only going to be > about ten minutes of fan stuff in the final programme. > > When my turn came, I was very glad I'd brought a warm coat. I was warmer than > Ralph Lee was as he crouched behind the camera on the narrow balcony of a > telescope dome. A white fabric reflector leaning against the camera and added a > little to the light levels as the day was a bit cloudy. We talked about Blake's > 7 and the reasons for its continuing appeal, which from my viewpoint are the > scripts and the quality of the acting and the relationships between he > characters. We discussed 'The Web' which is the episode they will be showing. > I believe there were several reasons for the choice, one of which is that it > isn't a continuity based episode. Many of the most popular episodes require you > to have seen other related episodes in order to get the most from them. From > the questions I was asked, I think the topicality of the issue of genetic > engineering was another aspect that appealed. When does a genetically > engineered race reach a level where it has human rights? > > Ralph also showed me inside one of the domes as he knew I was interested. The > telescope is amazing. He told me that Patrick Moore had mapped most of the moon > using that particular telescope. (The programme will be called 'Over the Moon', > so it's a nice connection). The floor of the dome can rise and fall. This was > to allow the astronomers to be at the right height to use the telescope (which > is about 15 feet long) whatever angle it is at. There was an old chair with an > unusual shape to allow astronomers to look down the telescope for long periods > while lying virtually flat on their back. > > Back to the canteen to thaw out and swop notes. Do you suppose they'll use the > bit about Tarrant's bum... > > Diane had brought various bits of Horizon stuff, so I stocked up on memo pads > and looked at her latest Gareth photo. We saw a preview of some bits of the > next Horizon newsletter. There's a really groan-indicing pun in one article, > but I promised I wouldn't give it away. (I have a great weakness for bad puns). > > Andy arrived, somewhat later than anticipated with some splendid Federation > trooper outfits. Three fans prmoptly donned these and went out to be shot > patroling the domes. I was originally slightly dubious about this idea, but to > be honest, it would have been a terrific waste of the setting not to do it. > Those domes were just made for Federation patrols. Jenni, in her silver Avon > outfit, borrowed my son's replica Liberator gun and went out to be filmed being > arrested. The rest of us watched and gradually froze. We weren't allowed to > talk when they were actually shotting so as to not be picked up on the > soundtrack. > > Then we watched Patrick recording the voiceovers. > > Back indoors to drool over Horizon's replica Orac and to take a quick peek at > some costumes Rob had brought. I also had great fun playing with a replica > Federation gun. Who wants to grow up anyway? > > Then it was all over and time to head back to the station. I'd swear those > winding Surrey roads had doubled in length from the first journey. Or maybe the > driver got lost and wasn't telling... > > Four hours of so later, I staggered home, having survived once more without a > buffet. Kelvin had managed to get a lift home from school so he was happy. I > had a chat with the baby sitter and then collapsed to answer the e-mail. With > excellent timing, Sheelagh phoned up just as I'd finished reading the e-mail, so > I passed Patrick's regards back to her, chatted about the events of the day and > then crawled off to bed. > > It was fun. I believe the programme will be broadcast in January on the BBC > digital channel. Heaven knows if anyone will ever see it, but if you want to > know what a Blake's 7 episode looks in a digital quality broadcast, then you'll > have to find a friend with a digital set or get one yorself. > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 22:32:26 +0100 > From: Steve Rogerson > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Re: Peladon > Message-ID: <36646061.422E303E@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Carol asked re Peladon: "Steve, thanks for passing along the news that > the next B7 radio play might be delayed. :( I've been looking forward > to it. Are you going to tell us > anything more about the convention?" > > Well it was mostly a Dr Who con despite it being billed as a B7/Dr Who > con. Jacqueline was the only B7 guest, though some of the many minor Dr > Who peeps had been in B7. And Colin Baker was also one of the guests and > was asked what it was like to work on B7 and he said they were great > people to work with (stock answer, yes I know I'm cynical). > > Jacqueline was a bit downbeat about the radio play. She didn't comment > much on it directly, just to say that when you get a Dr Who writer > writing Blakes 7 it's hardly surprising if the characters don't come > across right. > > She was selling an audio cassette for a fiver called "Jacqueline Pearce > in conversation 1: Servalan". I bought one but I haven't got round to > listening to it yet. > > I also picked up for a fiver a vinyl LP (remember them?) of BBC theme > tunes including B7. It's called BBC Space Themes and came out in 1978. > The record itself is very badly scratched but the cover has a great > picture of the Liberator on it and really small Tardis and USS > Enterprise. > -- > cheers > Steve Rogerson > > Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" > Star Wars > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 22:43:21 +0100 > From: Steve Rogerson > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Re: Brian C's one man show > Message-ID: <366462EE.59CE11E@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Carol asked: "did anyone go to Brian Croucher's one-man show? I was > hoping to see reports on that." > > Yep I did. He was very good. He really has had a varied career, and the > beard suits him. He used to live in Battersea, London, where the show > was, which is why he was doing it. But he's moved to a remote part of > Kent because he became too well known after being in Eastenders, so it > was becoming a bit of a pain living in a crowded area of London. The guy > interviewing him, interviewed the group of us from Horizon unexpectadly > before Brian came on. He just walked into the audience and asked who we > were, so we told him and he spent a few minutes talking with us. > > The interview took Brian through his career interspersed with video > clips from things he'd been in. The B7 clip was from Trial were he is in > his cell and the guy comes in offers him a drink. I can't remember the > name of the actor at the moment, but Brian said afterwards that he died > not long ago. > > After the formal bit, he threw it open to the audience for questions. I > asked if he'd like to recreate the role of Travis for a radio play. He > said he'd love to and said can we let the right people know. > > I had to shoot off at the end, but he joined the rest of the Horizon > people in the bar for a chat afterwards. I've saw at the BBC B7 Over the > Moon shoot yesterday a group photo of him in the bar with the fans, so I > was miffed at not staying. Not that miffed cos I had so much fun > yesterday dressed up as a Federation trooper, but I'll save that for > another email. > -- > cheers > Steve Rogerson > > Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" > Star Wars > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:39:45 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor > To: Lysator List > cc: Space City > Subject: [B7L] Radio Times > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > This week's Radio Times has a brief Blake's 7 reference and a small picture of > Blake on page 7. No, not a repeat showing. This is the BBC after all. > > Judith > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 17:18:27 PST > From: "Joanne MacQueen" > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Carnell > Message-ID: <19981202011829.2692.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hello all. > > Just a question: Jean Graham has put a story called "Mirage" up on her > site, and I'm reading through it. The trouble is that I'm having trouble > with the description of one character. Not having seen "Weapon", can I > ask what the hell Carnell looks like? > > The description so far seems to involve almost as many teeth as the > senior and junior Toothy Ones (ie Avon and Tarrant respectively) put > together, but all that conjures up is a vague mental picture of Carker > the manager from "Dombey and Son" (it's so hard to read a book when you > have to put it down whenever a particular character appears), or the > Corinthian from The Sandman graphic novels (and that's another nightmare > altogether! ). > > Anyone care to describe Carnell? Or is he indescribable? > > Regards > Joanne > > Gross Domestic Product: The Footy Show > --Glossary, Good News Week Vol. 2 > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -------------------------------- > End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #298 > ************************************** > Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #8 ************************************